Thread: Your Last Chance to Save Our Pistol Grips

Tim says that the link will be on the GS site in the next few days.
The GG is pretty much anything at gg.govt.nz ... so admin@gg.govt.nz will get to his office

I think the best way to communicate our message to the GG is through numbers opposed to any change to their rights
I also think the best way to do this is through established means of protest. We have all done pretty well so far. I would have been stoked with 1000 supporters. Its rather gratifying to see it keep steadily climbing well above this.
Let me know when Tim has sorted their end!

Originally Posted by NSA

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That form doesn't look like a genuine Police form, there are some big errors. I would say it's a fake.

May I ask where you got this form? Or did somebody just make it as a joke?

Originally Posted by Savage1

That form doesn't look like a genuine Police form, there are some big errors. I would say it's a fake.

May I ask where you got this form? Or did somebody just make it as a joke?

Sure thing.. it came from Police National Headquarters and was confirmed by a chap named "Joe Green". Joe is a police inspector who heads the firearms and vetting service. But if you think it's fake; run with that, all good

National Shooters Association is not in the habit of posting or promoting fake stuff.

Theres a few new forms being tested by NZ Police.

It's a very unattractive form

screenshot of xls file ???

Originally Posted by NSA

National Shooters Association is not in the habit of posting or promoting fake stuff.

Genuine lol.

Seems SaveOurGrips has demonstrated what happens when a non-combative approach is used, seems to be quite popular with other shooters ? And yes Digit, don't email GG, it's really missing the point. If the GG starts purporting a personal opinion in matters from Parliament, they've seriously over stepped the mark. As Queens' representative, it's a bit of a no no (history aside from 40 odd years ago).

I think they are meant to be an interactive xls form that can be emailed to customers to fill in then returned to the AO.
You would be surprised (or maybe not) about the inefficiencies AOs have to deal with in regards to dealing with us. Their is no automation - they literally use carbon copies.
I would not want to be an AO over the next 6+ months.

no I'm not suprised and yes I know what the AO has to put up with. Nothing like a chunky paper file to lose pieces of smeared carbon copies in ! One advantage paper has is a copy of the signature, but then that's their problem to resolve. Hopefully they're smarter than thinking of using an xls file, it's got more security holes than a holey thing.

A respected member or another forum has stated that this is legit to some degree, his AO said it's a test form. A Police officer on that forum said it is fake.

The test forms are real. Some AOs have received them.

Originally Posted by Beavis

A respected member or another forum has stated that this is legit to some degree, his AO said it's a test form. A Police officer on that forum said it is fake.

And quite a few of them don't TRUST there fellow workers.

Apparently it is legit but only some AO's know about it...

Originally Posted by NSA

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Apparently you make a request for something called a "restricted firearm" to be added to an endorsement. No idea what a restricted firearm is - but they probably refer to a firearm that attracts an an endorsement. There is no mention in the Arms Act of a thing called a restricted firearm..................

I suspect it to be these...............................

Arms (Restricted Weapons and Specially Dangerous Airguns) Order 1984 (SR 1984/122) (as at 15 October 2010) 2*Restricted weapons – New Zealand Legislation

Labour Party Responds to saveourpistolgrips.com

13 August 2013

Thank you for your emails regarding the Arms (Military Style Semi-automatic Firearms and Import Controls) Amendment Act 2012.

Your concerns regarding the consequences of this Act, particularly in regards to sections 4 and 11 were thoroughly debated during the Select Committee stage.

Given the weight of the concerns around a number of issues raised, primarily by firearms organisations and members of the public, Labour proposed an initiative to assist the consultation process.

Labour members of the select committee suggested that an independent reference group be formed that would provide contestable advice to the Minister and would have been an avenue for parties to offer opinion and expert advice in the event of an Order in Council being introduced.

Government members on the Law and Order Select Committee that presided over this Act voted down our proposal. This was unfortunate as this would have given individual or groups that share your concerns an avenue to oppose such changes.

We continue to feel it was unfortunate that the government did not support our move in select committee to allow firearms organisations and members of the public to have their say.
I would like to thank you for expressing your concerns to me.

Yours Sincerely,

Kris Faafoi
Member of Parliament for Mana
Labour Spokesperson for Police | Corrections | Associate Spokesperson for Health