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I've been slowly pushing the .260 out to see how my new scope and projectile combination would go. An opportunity presented itself for a 415 yard shot on a fawn less hind recently.
I was impressed with the results and these projectiles sure do leave an awesome vapour trail.
https://youtu.be/cblE2p3f2aQ?si=LZLW3izkwcCkLFKV
It's easy to shoot these things, but the recovery and walk back in the rain wasn't as enjoyable. :-)
I'd decided to shoot a few hinds in this area as there are miles to many.
Nice shot. The vapour coming off that bullet was amazing.
Someone really needs to start importing these on a commercial scale :O_O:
Nice. What MV is it doing?
I shot a large body stag with my 143 @240 yards last week and was very impressed with performance. No exit apart from 2 petals. MV 3180fps
Bet the hind didnt walk far.:thumbsup:
Mines doing 2850 ft/sec.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gkp
I must get some for my 260 to try.
why do they leave more of a vapour trail?
Did you get the classic shank punching right through and a cluster of petal holes around the exit @craigc?
I shot a fallow hind last week with a 109 grain Absolute Hammer that had exactly that sort of result.
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Heavy moisture in the air or even rain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yesmate
The 69 Absolutes out of my 22" 6CM thermal rifle are absolutely devastating out to 375-400 yards....might have something to do with the 3915 fps muzzle velocity :)
It started to rain just as I got to the deer and it was getting dark. I didn’t f around with anything other than grabbing the back steaks and the rear legs!Quote:
Originally Posted by Steelisreal
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Oil in the HP tips from the machining processQuote:
Originally Posted by Mathias
In very high humidity often just as it starts raining the Sonic boom of the bullet compressing the air and it's subsequent expansion results in the water vapor condensing. It's most spectacular with a charge of large shot over a pond in the morning or evening
Its called a Hammer TrailQuote:
Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg
Haven't seen it concentrated like that before. Craig is using Hammer Hunters. I use them (HH) in 270wsm and .223 and the petal damage is more random but still nasty. The shank almost always passes through although I have recovered the odd shank.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steelisreal
The 124HH are a good bullet in a short barrel (20") 6.5PRC because their design lifts the speed - I had one and they went really well with Hammers but it didn't turn out a decent advantage over my 6.5x55 with ordinary 140's.
117 grn HH 270 wsm (3500fps) exit, and shank and petals from a different deer (sorry about the hijack Craig, but Im your bloody Father :) ):
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I like that!Quote:
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It has everything to do with it, speeds kills quicker.Quote:
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I'm a fan, I'm trying to get rid of my ammo to get the cases for reloading the 33gr hammers, can not wait.
My brain is turning to mush - it's a fallow doe! The muzzle velocity was 3160fps and the projectile is 6.5mm. Range was 140 metres so projectile was doing roughly 2825fps on impact. The shot was slightly uphill and I hit on the front edge of the shoulder so the chest isn't very wide. The deer did what any lung shot deer usually does and ran a few metres before the lights went out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steelisreal
What a rocket!
Aww this place does make me laugh
I'm not sure what video everyone else was watching but the footage I saw was of an average shot & a very average kill to be posting promoting what great bullets they are, The shot hit very low ( an inch or two either side & it would of been a clean miss ) no wonder it didn't go far, you blew a chunk outta it's leg.
I know Craig can shoot but that certainly wasn't his best effort & to me a great shot is a "BANG - FLOP" not an animal bolting out of view with a fucked wheel, but then I don't hunt or shoot 1% of the animals the NZHS forum experts do so what would I know hahahaha
I will await the incoming vollie of hate coming my way, but I just say it how I see it & the thing that really makes me giggle & cringe at the same time is this
If this was a post from a newbie hunter with a vid of their first "long range" kill ( instead of a regular poser / poster / loved forum family member in this section ) I would bet that nearly all the people that liked CC's original post, would rip the poor cunt a new one & go on about poor bullet, poor shot placement, verifying & testing on non live targets yadda yadda yadda
He's out hunting for the night so his Father will rush to his defence :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Philipo
I think it was the vapour trail that interested Craig the most with that shot. I know he wasn't overly wrapped by the low-ish shot and investigated when he got home. He found that he had not properly calibrated those coloured disks on the Swaro after he had taken the turret to bits.
He has good reason to talk the Hammers up based on his previous experience with them.
In any event, bang-flops are really the exception, not the rule, and mostly the result of high shoulder shots (in my experience). No matter what you hit them with.
Its likely me that will get torn the new AH now - from him for interfering. :)
dead deer yummy many years ago shooting full bore Roys Hill range Napier if one stood directly behind shooter on the 900 yard range ( .303 ) one could see a vapour trail going down the range to target - seemed to be doing quite a spiral but neat to watch
shout him a beer Thar and you will be forgivenQuote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
More of a light and the camera in just the right place in my experienceQuote:
Originally Posted by Mathias
At long range you can almost always pick up a trace sitting directly behind and slightly above the shooter.
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Cheers for that Tahr
I'm still not sure why Craig posted it really & did he actually go in retrieve said "dead in 20 yard" Deer, thought he would of posted a pic of the carnage said amazing bullet made ?
But I will wait for him to respond once back in cyberland.
As for "Bang - Flops" like I said, I'm no hunting n killing expert by any means but of the few animals I have bowled over the years, the BF or animals that ya "sack on the spot" ones are the best & most rewarding plus I'm not really into setting up, videoing & posting stuff so don't post it up.
But I find a decent fit for purpose projectile & plenty of grunt work best, some may love shooting Reds with little bangers like a 223 but I'll take my 30-06 Terminator Imp max any day of the week.
This is not my :fighting: to enter into, but I do note, Craig has said, "the recovery and walk back in the rain was not enjoyable"
So I take from that that he did not "shoot and scoot" :)
maaaate you take the piss out of anything and everything, more probing than a Police Detective, must be a bloody good cook? or just a great stirrer :) and i thought it wasn't too bad a shot- hell it was 14 x better than my last two that connected.Quote:
Originally Posted by Philipo
I’d say he posted it because that bullet trace is Super :cool: :cool: :cool: possibly generated from high humidity if it was about to rain, that or hammer bullets are actually wee rockets
Are we watching the same video here? Here's the frame immediately prior to impact and I've marked the bullet (trace) location with an arrow. Sure, a bit low - but what you've written seems a hell of an exaggeration?Quote:
Originally Posted by Philipo
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Well sorry Paul but I just watched the vid as I saw it, I didn't go all "CSI" on it, but I just watched it again & I call full BS on where you think it hit, so as I said it looked like a shit shot to me & I wouldn't of posted the rubbish but if ya happy with what was posted than good for you
Are we not allowed to call anyone out nowadays ?
This thread reminds me of the "Pulpit of truth" lol
Targex 95gr out the humble 243 and you get spectacular vapour trails especially over a gully or gorge.Incredible to watch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
My 'Take' on this is : With 6.5 projo's (some being better than others ) you don't necessarily need heavy-projectiles . The lighter-stuff hits way-beyond its size due to the high BC and SD of the 6.5 . The lighter -110-125 projo's can be pushed a lot-faster and all the-energy stays in the-animal depending on the projectile-construction and shot-placement . Many discovered long-ago that 120's in 6.5x55( Sweed'more') , simply 'Flatten' deer out to sensible-distances and their penetration because of that BC/SD is exceptional . A 110-120-gr 6.5 equates to a much-larger/heavier calibre-projectile when you look at the respective BC/SD's . Philipo , your humour has been missed , drink two-shots before your next Post......
90% of ducks I shoot go 20 yards from impact and are dead on arrival...maybe Im a shit shot too??? look forward to hearing how Philipo manages to make them stop on the spot.:wtfsmilie:
20 or even 50 yards dead run isnt a shit shot...it is what it is,at least the man recovered some meat from animal..so still hunting for pot not just shooting to waste...:oand if shooting to waste,where it hits doesnt matter a shit really does it??? as long as death is quick.
nah..Paul is correct,watch it slow mo back n forward like the cricket umpires do and it hits right about where the bottom point of rear of his arrow is showing,at top of the grey line of rear of leg if you will...its a good shot and a farkin site further than I would shoot.
