Thread: Ruahine fly-in: The good and the bad of helicopters for hunters

Originally Posted by GWH

Thanks for the encouragement, after your post i thought 'Bugger it', so posted pics and a quick blurb on the Deerstalking and Hunting FB page, well, within 1 hour i have sure stirred up a hornets nest, ive had PM's from Landowners in the area saying the same machine has been seen chasing deer on their land. There is some very unhappy people.

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Originally Posted by Tahr

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Its a private group on FB, so unless you are a member of the group you wont be able to see anything. But the group is "Deer Stalking and Hunting in New Zealand".

Like normal, some fellas take it too far with 'Talk' about 'shooting it down' etc. But ive had pm's from a chap with private land bordering the Public land, and he says the same machine has been poaching deer on their private land, and was also seen again Sunday just gone hunting in the public land up the Pohungina.

Surely the Police/CAA would be interested ?

Shooting from a moving vehicle ?
Shooting/hunting in, across or onto Public land without a valid permit.
Use of a firearm where it causes distress or annoyance to neighbors or the public?
Illegal? low flying.

Guess you'd have to be able to prove that animal was shot from the aircraft and or ended up being 'commercially processed'.

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LOL. @GWH you should stop worrying so much and just go farm hunting in your ute.

It's obviously @kiwijames

You will find it very difficult to prove how low the aircraft was flying.
When the farmers protested in Wellington back in 1987 they had top dressing plans fly low over parliament, also during the Spring Bock tour of 1980s and the flower bombing at Hamilton. From my memory no prosecutions could be proven because it is very hard to prove how high they actually are.
Moving vehicle, sorry but not going to happen as there is already prescient be set with whole industry been set up around this.
That leaves you with the last two options.

I'd ring the regional DOC head office & ask to speak to the person in charge of enforcement/complaints/waro/concession breachs, tell them you have clear evidence of either a waro concession breach or illegal hunting, and if they don't follow it up you will take it up with Aunty Maggie & Dunne, I'd then email them both asking why nothing is being done

When Prouting got done down here for illegally heli hunting tahr outside of his concession area, Doc weren't keen to do anything about it until I believe pressure was brought to bear from Dunne, etc. he eventually ended up losing his heli hunting concession!

Originally Posted by outdoorlad

When Prouting got done down here for illegally heli hunting tahr outside of his concession area, Doc weren't keen to do anything about it until I believe pressure was brought to bear from Dunne, etc. he eventually ended up losing his heli hunting concession!

And then DOC kindly changed the system so the guide held the concession rather than the chopper outfit, and that very same chopper was straight back into it just a few weeks later..

There was another one earlier this year, with a different heli crew dropping their hunters in on a mob of bulls within 800m of an occupied hut, a mob that already had foot hunters within about 200m of them.. All caught on video, chopper crew claimed they didn't see them/hadn't looked. And despite the rules stating no hunting within 1km of a recreational facility, DOC still decided there was no breach and promptly pushed it into the 'ignore' basket.

Originally Posted by outdoorlad

I'd ring the regional DOC head office & ask to speak to the person in charge of enforcement/complaints/waro/concession breachs, tell them you have clear evidence of either a waro concession breach or illegal hunting, and if they don't follow it up you will take it up with Aunty Maggie & Dunne, I'd then email them both asking why nothing is being done

When Prouting got done down here for illegally heli hunting tahr outside of his concession area, Doc weren't keen to do anything about it until I believe pressure was brought to bear from Dunne, etc. he eventually ended up losing his heli hunting concession!

It's all in motion mate, I have the LNIRDF guys fully on board with this.

Will update in due course.

Any news?

What was the outcome...free chopper ride from the perp , rest of it swept under the carpet ?