Thread: Hybrid vs petrol - surprising outcome

Originally Posted by Trout

Green machine Aston Martin i think,a real car.

British Racing Green?

Originally Posted by 2post

British Racing Green?

Started off at around 30 and at the end it was down to the low 20’s, price you pay for some grouse sounding exhaust tones. Not a lot of flogging involved.

I used to have a 2.5L skyline that used about 12L/100km. When petrol was almost going to hit $1.50/L I got a 1L manual Suzuki Swift as a daily runabout. This was a steep learning curve as the fuel usage was not what I expected. The 1L car on the open road used 8L/100km, now my 1.5L uses 7L/100 km and 6.2 on the open road.
This also shows I have some inefficient driving habits

Originally Posted by No good names left

I used to have a 2.5L skyline that used about 12L/100km. When petrol was almost going to hit $1.50/L I got a 1L manual Suzuki Swift as a daily runabout. This was a steep learning curve as the fuel usage was not what I expected. The 1L car on the open road used 8L/100km, now my 1.5L uses 7L/100 km and 6.2 on the open road.
This also shows I have some inefficient driving habits

There's a sweet spot between a tiny engine that's really too small for the size/weight of what it's moving so it's at full power the whole time and max fuel useage, to a really big engine that's idling most of the time on a very light fuel burn and doesn't use much but in the equation you have purchase cost, maintenance, weight and bulk and parts cost...

Originally Posted by No.3

There's a sweet spot between a tiny engine that's really too small for the size/weight of what it's moving so it's at full power the whole time and max fuel useage, to a really big engine that's idling most of the time on a very light fuel burn and doesn't use much but in the equation you have purchase cost, maintenance, weight and bulk and parts cost...

I used to have a 1.6 Suzuki vitara that worked hard on the open road

Think it was a 1989 model and the carburettor would freeze up early in the morning at highway speeds, had a wee snorkel on the air filter housing that you turned around to inhale the hot air off the exhaust manifold

It used about 80% throttle at highway speeds and wasn’t good on fuel at all

Originally Posted by 7mmsaum

I used to have a 1.6 Suzuki vitara that worked hard on the open road

Think it was a 1989 model and the carburettor would freeze up early in the morning at highway speeds, had a wee snorkel on the air filter housing that you turned around to inhale the hot air off the exhaust manifold

It used about 80% throttle at highway speeds and wasn’t good on fuel at all

I am running a 1.6 Vitara and a 3l V6 Avalon.I use both for towing the trailer and choose which one depending on where I am going and what I am getting. If I have to drive on any slightly dubious surface that the Avalon may slip on I take the Vitara. With regards to economy (and I drive a bit like a lil ole lady.... ) the mileage between them is near enough to identical. Around 9.5km per litre for both. But one is far more comfortable to spend time in....

Hybrids have their uses...and they are best suited for lots of round town / slow speed running - think taxis which is where the 830,000km one mentioned by @makka would be how these ks are achieved.

I looked seriously at a Prius (I know, I know) back in 2021/2022 - it was a couple of $K and 300,00km or so but needed a new hybrid battery, cooling fan setup etc etc. Worked out that it would cost me about $3500 in parts, less what I could get for the old battery - replacing the bits doing the work myself and at the end of it with a bit of a tidy would be a 10-12K vehicle. Might have been able to replace a few cells in the hybrid pack and get away with a functional battery a hell of a lot cheaper than a replacement, but you can't really quantify that until you get into it.

Nowadays, I don't think it's worth it for the driving we do - it won't save what we were expecting it would as noted up top. The only way I'd consider one now though would be in that way, getting it CHEAP and refitting it so the expense is included in the purchase price less labour costs.

I'm a sparky by trade, but haven't been on the tools for a long time. However have been around electricity stuff quite a bit (building of flamanville, kusile, medupi, Pembroke, etc).
Battery Electric cars in nz do not make any finiancial sense, unless they are owned by a company that can off set the loses against profit ( Depreciation, and end sale loss)

And if you want one to care for the environment, you don't understand full life cycle cost (carbon, energy, pollution, micro plastics/metals, etc...

About to depart for holiday.will spend next two weeks driving a hybrid Toyota aqua....will try to remember to take note of KMs and liters of fuel used lol,also not to park it in dodgy neighbourhood lol

You can imagine an Uber driver returning a couple of weeks later demanding he fix the fault properly when they were told to cough up $15 k plus for a new set of batteries. There’s some highly educated Uber drivers but not clued up with what wheels they have bought.

Well here it is. About as vanilla flavoured a car as it is possible to buy.

Thank fuck its not a green Aston Martin. That would’ve taken some explaining.

Originally Posted by Flyblown

Well here it is. About as vanilla flavoured a car as it is possible to buy.

Thank fuck its not a green Aston Martin. That would’ve taken some explaining.



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Sounds like you have schooled your kids up, I’m sure they will look after it.

Right ho. As promised. We traveled 1426km and used 77 liters of 91 octane. Rotorua to Coromandel to Taumarunui to kawhia to Taumarunui then arapuni n up to Rotorua again.been a weird wee car to drive ,Toyota aqua.my biggest gripe was the front pillars blocked lots of view when looking sideways.

That's pretty good going MD

18.51 ks/litre or 5.4l/100km, pretty good