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So it's bloody hard to buy a new vehicle at present.
I need a new work ute, double cab 4WD.
Only a Mitsi Triton, or an Isuzu D Max available in a timeframe that works.
But the D Max is 15 grand dearer!
I won't be driving it, so I don't need any emotional attachment.
We've got 1 Triton, seems fine but it's only 18 months old.
Anyone got experience with either or both? (opens popcorn & a beer)
I have the 2020 4wd GLXR and have had no issues and does everything I will ever need of it both on and off road. Has the basic 4wd system but I have yet to defeat it.
The basic GLX would make a good work wagon and comes with diff locks on the rear.
10 year warranty seems good but haven't needed to test it out yet.
I just traded my 2017 d max for 2020 runout mu-x. Brilliant vehicles! Motor is known for longevity and my cousin who owns his own mech business recommended Isuzu over Mitsi. My bro just flicked his 2019 Triton. It was comfy to ride in but felt tinnier that Isuzu. Paintwork seemed very thin; possibly built to a budget. Cousin has a late model Triton and loves it, but he added a controller to get more oomph off the mark with his caravan.
I thoroughly recommend Isuzu. My double cab manual with canopy and about 55kms May still be in dealers yard.
I’d buy the Mitsi, Diamonds are forever after all..
Mitzi, before I went that direction spoke with a local business which ran 3 of them, highest k/m was 255,000, never had any issues. That was 10 years ago, same guy still running Mitzi's, same with us.
Had my Triton 3.5yrs 38km only issue has been the chassis getting a bit of rust on it (it does live outside near the coast) brought the issue up with Mitsubishi, chassis got blasted and repainted with something better at their cost under the 5/10yr warranty.
The carryboy canopy on the other hand has bubbles coming up under the paint on all the metalwork and it's peeled off the roof rails, only got a 2yr warranty and they won't touch it (paid big $$ for the canopy as well)
I went through a similar comparison early last year between the exact same two 4WD utes. Ended up getting the new model Triton GLXR, as i couldn't see what i would gain for an extra 10-15K getting the D-Max. I have a mate that runs D-max and he likes it, but did note that it rides rather hard compared to the Triton, due to stiffer rear suspension. Likely makes it better to carrying loads in the rear tray and maybe towing also. But as mine was to second as family vehicle i went for the more comfy ride and nicer interior of the Triton.
Likes of the Triton I have found for so far is: its ability to not get stuck (user luck?), slightly thinner than the likes of Rangers/D-Max etc, so able to get through tight gaps/tracks better, good turning lock for its length, seems to have plenty of grunt, comfy for driver and passengers and great on the open road too (proved over last xmas when i dragged the family (wife & two boys of 3 & 5yr old) down from Tauranga & around the south island in it on a (5,000km trip).
So my opinion is, if you are wanting a work truck that will be towing and carry lots of heavy shit in the back then maybe the D-Max is a better option. Otherwise Triton all the way.
Both have good (proven) reputations as reliable workhorses that can handle lots of kms on the clock.
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Originally Posted by Bryan
An Aussie review of a couple of years back compared d max with Triton and put them on an equal footing. I went d max on a/c of the “truck-based” motor, a mechanic cousins recommendation, my gut feeling of 3 litre 13k0 Kw turbo VS 2.4 litre 137 Kw turbo motor. We upgraded to the runout mu-x as it has softer coil rear springs and is auto, so my wife can drive it while I hoon round in her Honda. Mu-x is simply a different shell on a d-max chassis/running gear. Shirley and I expect the mu-x to be our last 4wd, caravan/boat towing purchase.
Yeah I remember seeing that same review, was really comprehensive. Sounds like your assessment is as I noted, that the D-Max is a more 'trucky' ute and good for towing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ingrid 51
4wd action in Australia so good comparisons of the modern Utes on you tube
we just sold our triton, bought a new d-max
its more comfortable andmore economical than the mitsi.
also new tritons only come in slushomatic, the warranty is only for the original owner and the servicing must be done by a mitsi dealer to keep the warranty ( and they charge big $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$)
Have been told that it can be done by someone else but they need to be 'qualified' can't disagree with the second half though I'm sure @veitnamcam would agree they know how to chargeQuote:
Originally Posted by gonetropo
Mitsi has a service plan capped at $250/service.
Ordered the Mitsi today.
$15K cheaper, much better warranty. Isuzu kept telling me how good the truck was, but they only warranty it for 3 years!
Thanks for all the input team, you bas*#rds aren't as useless as your wives reckon!
christchurch mitsi certainly aint capped at 250!
isnt the Isuzu a 6 year warranty? the new bt50s are 5yr/150km and the Isuzu's are better I thought 6yr unlimited km?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mistral
wow yeah 3yr warranty
@Mistral any more detail on the capped service. I looked at a Mitsi and the servicing price put me off
Went through the same exercise last year, and did a lot of side by side comparisons with all of the double cab 4x4 utes. Got the Mitsi in the end, as it was considerably cheaper, and you can run them in AWD mode 24/7/365 and not stuff anything. Done 25,000km so far and no complaints.
Disclaimer - I may have put a lot of weighting on the AWD feature, as this was something I had become accustomed to with the Prado I had previously.
$15,000 in servicing over 10 years?Quote:
Originally Posted by bigbear
Suspect Nissan preload the servicing price into the original purchase price.
Yea services on my MQ triton run average about 700bucks....this is in Nelson.
The same services seem a lot cheaper in Invercargill ay @223nut
FWIW, just went through the same exercise looking at the new Navara, Triton, and Rangers.
I like the Navara & Ranger, but returned the Triton after a 15 min test drive. It just felt cheap. Certainly not the same build quality as the 09
Triton I had, and it was easy easy to see why they are cheaper than every other mainstream Ute on the market atm.
You certainly get what you pay for.
I'll just leave this here.
https://www.google.com/search?q=snap...&bih=662&dpr=3
My boss had a brand new 2016 Triton which had a gearbox/transmission problem after about 6 months. Was replaced under warranty though. Have a feeling it was a manual. Was very nice on the road for a ute, smooth, quiet and plenty of power I thought. And I'm not a bitzashity fan.
Ouch, Just had our 2016 Colorado serviced by dealer, 50K Service was quoted @ $350 and that was the total cost.Quote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
First time I have driven it in 12 months and it will most likely be another 12 months before I drive it again.
For some reason I much prefer my 28 year old Pajero SWB
If I were buying another new ute, again I most likely would be looking a DMAX
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Originally Posted by Mauser308
For something that older and second hand, new vehicles aren't worth it!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by mikee
Any licenced mechanic should be able to service.
Warranty might need to be determined by a dealer.
Good on Fuel.
I'm hard on cars my first 50,000km was belting up and down dirt roads faster than I should.
Mitzie here seem to insist on them servicing for the warranty, tried to do it at work in certified workshop, they said warranty would be invalid. Nissan was ok with it, but had to use genuine filters etc.
Toyota are the same, that is why they brought in the capped service plan
Replaced our 2015 ranger last year looked at them all mitzi, dmax, ranger, Nissan, Colorado and Mazda ended up with a Mazda bt50 cab n a half 4x4. So many parts have formoco on them it's amusing. 3.2l diesel, quite liked the dmax but couldn't see where the extra $20,000 had been hidden.
Also the commercial service plan is capped at $200.
And now all those parts on the latest Mazdas will be market Isuzu
Just went through the same exercise and looked at all the current available brands. Ended going for the Mitsi because it stacked up really well in comparison tests and the value is unbeatable. Hope I'm right.
@223nut That’s moisture in the paint as it dried when sprayed!Quote:
Originally Posted by 223nut
Common problem now as they have taken the VSO out of the paint. That’s the good stuff that used to make paint dry.
I bought a Triton and its been fantastic so far, definitely the best deal of all the mainstream utes on the market.
I went with the GLX so i could have the diff lock.
Two issues i have with it is the turbo lag from a standing start, it is terrible unless you utterly floor it.
And i find it a pain to get in & out of, always smacking my head on the pillar on the way out, takes some getting used to....
you can do a quick mod which turns off the EGR, reduces turbo lag and improves economyQuote:
Originally Posted by Sika 8
Lag is easily fixed with a throttle controller. Got one on my MR Triton, and its lifechanging.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sika 8
This ^^ ,Quote:
Originally Posted by quentin
Put an iHike on mine for about $275, completely different vechicle.
From what I've seen, those throttle controllers just trick the ecu to thinking you're at full throttle when you're only a quater on the pedal. Could you not just give it the jandal and get the same result or do they do more than i think?Quote:
Originally Posted by HUNTY
Im dubious but kind of want to try one on my colorado....
+ 1 for the Hikeit throttle controller. You need to try it to appreciate how much difference it makes
Yep, they are just updating the throttle position signal, but do it at a speed that is impossible to match by just flooring it. I tried it both way when I got my controller. Turns out my foot was inferior to the controller every time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dyls
The controller also has a setting that introduces a lot less throttle response, which I have found useful when driving up the paddocks if they are really wet.
I think i might give one a go then. Being able to retard the throttle when bouncung up riverbeds and such sounds handy too.
