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Toyota is fucked then.....
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Massive savings for Kiwi car buyers under new Toyota plan | Newshub
Salesmen wont make commission for selling, finance guys can't up-sell warranty or service plans, dealers only get a handling fee, PDI's and accessories getting done at point of entry so workshops lose out there too.
Hmmm can't see it working well in the long run.
Trust it to happen after I line up a Mitsubishi rather than a Toyota, this change could have put the hilux in the running price wise
triton ?
Yeah, couldn't go past the price and warrantyQuote:
Originally Posted by gonetropo
Ull find that 10k off will be from recommend retail price. not what people are auctally paying for them. I know whwn i was looking rrp was a joke and couldnt go off that at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by 223nut
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Now if only a added extra was a 6l plus diesel :thumbsup:
have to buy a dodge ram/F truck etc for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by longrange308
Depending on the dealer and the person or company buying them tho, @mikee was saying our local dealership wouldnt budge off of full retail? and lost the sale as a result, ten k off of that is a great saving and will improve private sales a huge amount I would guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by 199p
Yep and their Arrogant Ass attitude pretty much means that I will never ever buy a cor off that dealership...........opps I mean salesroom or whatever.Quote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
I would drive to Blenheim if I want to buy a Toyota but so far its Holden all the way here
There will be one price for private buyers and another price still for the rest, farmlands, landcorp etc etc. It will be the good salesmen who will miss out. A mate of mine that works for a toyota dealership as a salesmen recons the wage is crap its only the commission that makes it worth while.
as far as work vehicles my best ones have always been corollas and caldinas, i also owned 3 mr2's one of which was a 340hp beast. but this was many years ago and the current crop are dull, boring and worst of all CVT !
Yeah the pricing is 1 price for retail, 1 for fleet owners gst registered, and 1 for rentals.
The only ones that will make anything from a new sale will be TNZ. Dealers are almost cut right out of it.
Dunno how the sales team will make money. They got a shitty retainer and had to rely on commission to make any money. Now they'll be on a wage or salary which dealers wont want to pay as they not making anything to cover that.
Prices will have to be dramatically reduced to keep customers and attract new buyers.
Problem is people want a personal touch with the 2nd most expensive investment they'll make (next to their house), and making it an order online then pickup like a chinese takeaway will turn people away for sure.
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Originally Posted by cambo
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the action or process of investing money for profit.
You will!:DQuote:
Originally Posted by 223nut
ORQuote:
Originally Posted by Timmay
informal
buy (a relatively expensive product) whose usefulness will repay the cost.
Dislike.... We shall seeQuote:
Originally Posted by Maca49
I’ve shut a door! That was enough!:O_O:
I'm all for this, I hate the tactics and pressure used by salesmen and they're effectively adding no value to the product yet taking a decent cut.
We'll see how it pans out, seems to work in most other areas of retail.
I'm picking the good salesfolk will move on to other brands or second hand. I'm with you, I think it will be better for the average customer without much purchasing leverage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Savage1
I think it will a good thing for the customer as it will make it the same for everyone.
I have owned heaps of hiluxs right back to my first 1981 hilux but earlier this year changed to a holden colorado.
This was because i was that annoyed with Toyota giving farmers an extra $4000 discount for being a Farmlands shareholder but not the same deal for regular Toyota customers that have always been loyal to the company.
Yeup...............thats exactly what I did too. And the eventual replacement to the colorado will also be a holdenQuote:
Originally Posted by yogi
sounds great I'd buy the heck out of a car on the internet
Meanwhile in VW world
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-v...-idUSKBN1H50GQ
There's something I find oddly compelling about the visuals of seeing that many cars just parked up, a bit like the USAF "boneyard" where they have all of the old planes out in the desert
Id of thought a wedding ring would be the most expensive investment? or most painful?Quote:
Originally Posted by cambo
TNZ in its sales pitch says the new system will remove the haggle out of the deal. So how do they deal with trade-in values??
When will they do it to Real Estate? Paying at least half the commission to a fat cat you never meet or see is just wrong!
What drives me nuts with Real estate is the customer pays for all the selling expenses including the advertising and the agent takes the commission but no real risk as any dramas with the property fall back onto the vendor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maca49
Imagine selling your car like that
What happens if you have problems with your new toyota? will it be like parallel imports? will your local dealer say piss off and go and see toyota as we made nothing out of it so why should we bend over backwards to help? I guess they'll push second hand vehicles' parts and servicing and detour people from buying new as thats where the money is for them. This could bite toyota in the bum. I know a lot of companys have bought directly from them for years and get good discount. If toyota takes a hard line with it's dealers, who would want to take on a franchise where really you'll only be able to service and sell expensive original parts? Anyone could specialise in selling second hand ones and bringing in parts and do better
My son just bought a house, involved two agents, his and the vendors, my son looks fairly young for his 38 yrs and they have 3 young children. Took a view thru the place and the vendors agent asked my sons agent if they could actually afford the house and he didn’t want to waste his time, my son was furious, the professionalism of these guys is amazing! Anyway he bought the house and paid the ransom, only good thing it was split 3 ways. The govt should dissolve the realestate institute and let it operate more as the used car sales do, remember the doom and gloom as to what was going to happen without the dealer principals? Cleaned is up nicely. Competition has that affect!
thats because there are 3 ringsQuote:
Originally Posted by Paddy79
engagement ring
wedding ring
suffer-ing
or its more like a game of bridge: it starts with a 2 hearts and a diamond, ends up with you wanting a club and a spade
That’s because you don’t keep up the root- ing
Fair one I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by yogi
You could of just joined farmlands to take advantage of the saving?
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I think the point is you shouldn't need to do that, If they can afford to give one group a discount then why not regular people tooQuote:
Originally Posted by BRADS
Fair point I suppose Mikee, seems to happen a lot in life sometimes ya just gotta crack on though a.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikee
We had to sign up to some deal a few years ago to save 6k on Mel's Ranger I think it was Q card?
Used it for the discount and chopped it up.
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Priced up a new Hilux at the start of last month and there was hardly any difference in price between the Farmlands shareholder price and the price paying the dealer direct. Initially looked good with the 12k savings on the rrp with farmlands but the dealer gave similar "discount" and free orc. Didn't matter in the end as went with a different Ute.Quote:
Originally Posted by BRADS
I looked at the Farmands discount a few weeks back $3,400 difference between my quote and what a mate paid... nope.Quote:
Originally Posted by NZShoota
Mitsi is as cheap as i'd go, tried the Foton.... Consider the bloody thing dangerous of corrugated gravelQuote:
Originally Posted by berg243
Same here. Was quite surprised how little you get for 46K when you want a 4WD Hilux.Quote:
Originally Posted by NZShoota