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Have have some GriSport Kaikouras (best boots I've EVER owned BTW) and have been using Huberd Shoe Grease and its been pretty good.
Leather feels good, but I'm not convinced its the best waterproofing (although it is ok..)
Other than Snoseal and Dubbin etc, is there any other products around that you recommend?
My "bro'n'law" ( you've meet him Spanners ) that works in the leather industry says that synthetics are the way to go & natural leather treatments like bees wax etc arn't all they're cracked up to be as they don't last as long & don't inhibit mil drew & mold growth
I use a synthic product called Elephant Leather Preserver or some call it "Elephant wax" & it seems to be pretty good stuff, they sell it from European leather care in Petone :cool:
SOunds like what I need
Is that the official name for it?
I'll have to find soem in Dorkland unless you drive down there to get some and deliver to me :D
Interesting...Quote:
Originally Posted by Spanners
I currently have the Gri Sport Hunters - but they are done and dusted after two years of abuse.
Seriously considering the Kaikouras.... just never worn a boot with such high ankle support.
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Originally Posted by Spanners
Or you could take the train down & pick some up :P
Heres their webby- Colourlock Industries Ltd
or email Craig @ leathercare@paradise.net.nz & tell em PHILIPO sent ya :)
I've had them for 3+ years, no sign of crapping out - hence why I want to keep them in good nick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pop Shot
The Hubards Shoe Grease was the recomended and supplied stuff as it apparently had been tested as the best for the leather - I believe it, but I want something with a little more water proofing ability.
I got the 1st pair that were brought in by the Importer as a sample (friend of mine) - just happeneded to fit, and I just happened to be doing some work for him that day :)
They went to Europe and toured the factorys etc - they are made just down the road from the Asolo factory and apparently they share materials, soles, etc
I'd never worn high boots before, but will not buy low ones agian - AWESOME.
I also got a pair of Hunters (gave them to the old man) and they are a different class of boot - the Hunter is more in the Hitec class of boot where the Kaikoura is more Merrel.
Will get onto him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Philipo
Family discount or wanker tax applies??
I hear sheeps piss works best, and wouldn't be much worse than a lot of the other crap out there.
I think it has way more on how you apply it. Get the leather HOT, get the "insert favourite crap here' HOT, as in liquid then it'll soak in, then it'll work best. ;) Put it on to cold, any of it and it sits on the outside....
That would be correct Wirehunt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wirehunt
Grangers products seem to work well for me.
Footwear Proofer | Grangers
You can get it at most outdoor stores.
Personally I don't like the Lowa branded wax, but like the Meindel Sportwax quite a bit. At present im using the Hubberds Shoe Grease and think its doing an alright job of looking after the leather. However it does take several dressings before Im happy with it being completely soaked in.
I totally agree with Wirehunt, the boots need to be warm and the liquid hot and runny. And if you have time leave it to soak in then apply another dressing and so on.
I have two pairs off boots and swap between them weekly to keep them up to qual.
Other thing is I can remember reading that you shouldn't use Dubbin on Nubuck leather (unsure what the GriSports are like).
I just use skellerup earthtec boot wax. Im in boots in the dirt 12/14 hours a day and its working so far, cheap too
Spanners I have GriSport Kaikouras too and I use SnoSeal on them. It works a treat just need to use some elbow grease and rub it in. Can use a hair drier too to melt it in a bit or do it in front of a fire.
Does it last as far as waterproofing for a weekend?? The Grease I was/am using is ok - just wanting better and somthign that will last 3-4 days rather than 1-2
I find it lasts a while, just have to rub it in well. The issue if using any synthetic/oil based stuff is the chemicals can destroy the waterproof membrane inside ie. GoreTex, Sympatex, E-Vent etc.
I tried some of my bros Meindl Sport wax.. was ok .. but as per the old boys boots, it tends to build up (he uses Dubbin)
So I did a bit of research as was going to use Snoseal.. and ALOT of guys said Nikwax was a bunch better
Apparently allows the leather to still breathe, where any waxy types basically cover and seal, and cause your feet to sweat.
Took the plunge and grabbed some from Macpac.. you wet the boots and put it on wet which is a strange concept, and the applicator reminds me of using liquid polish on school schools years ago
ANYWAY.. to cut a long story short, the stuff is UNREAL!
Doesnt have a shitty build up feel and water just beads straight off
Will see how it holds up
Is this it Spanners?
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/i...cs/Nickwax.jpg
I tried this on my new boots after the factory waterproofing had started to go, It did OK but round the 2-3 day mark the leather was getting wet in the wear areas.
Iv tried spray on stuff ,silicon I think(both the above in the aim of keeping the gortex stuff good) and it was brilliant as long as your boot didn't touch anything other than water. five minuets walking threw grass wiped it off.
After watching BaldBob put 3 large tubs of snow seal on each boot,in his undies and on his sandwiches I have figured bugger the gore tex if it even damages it at all and have gone back to Dubbin applied like wirehunt said pretty much.
If you make it soak in good and proper over a couple of days it lasts for ages.
Nope.. different stuff.. Liquid Wax
Way different stuff
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Ok same instructions get wet then apply and allow to soak in and dry.
It was pretty good just seemed to wear of where boots rubbed on grass scree etc.
Also tryed a wash in(yes thats right wash in) waterproofer on a jacket that is soppost to be waterproof but id stay dryer for longer in a old school lammy.End result worse than it was before.
Shes damp down here tho cam you have to put a weee dollop on them haha, mine was done after 2nd day of our trip an i got wet feet..........but that might have had something to do with going throught the river alotQuote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
I use this stuff.... EZDIRECT.CO.NZ - Your Haix Distributer
I've tried a lot of boot care stuff and have ended up using Gregor Chemie now. Great stuff.
From their website....
- Don’t use oils or leather grease with high oil content. Grease products are almost pure oil. Oils main problem with leather is over softening allowing leather fibre stretching, deforming your supportive boot and also reducing breath ability. The leather can gradually become saturated with oil and also may transfer to the Gore-tex or other type waterproof breathable functioning membranes further reducing breath ability.
- Products that are mainly wax also may not contain enough or the correct conditioners for leather in challenging NZ conditions. Resulting in dry cracked leather or fibre shrinkage. These are the main causes of footwear failure in NZ.
- Higher solvent content is also bad for the adhesives. Its obvious if a product has a high amount of solvent. Those gives of a strong aroma of the solvent evaporating.
Creams that have low solvent content containing a balanced ratio of conditioner and waterproofing ingredients that are more convenient to use perform the best.
