Thread: ice axe and crampons reccomendation

Originally Posted by Shearer

Funny you should say this. I have used crampons a lot and found them totally secure and easy to use. I carry an ice axe as well but have hardly used it apart for a walking stick. A lot of the time I have been on crampons I have crossed places that would have taken 10x as long if I had only had an axe. If I had only had an axe I would probably still be up there.
My crampons are Black Diamond and never looked like having bits braking off either. @Aly, do you use 10 or 12 point? What brand? Are you technical climbing or just using them travelling in regular hunting situations?

Crampons definitely cause plenty of accidents! But just like any snow and climbing equipment it takes practice to be safe with them, and it's up to you how secure and easy they are . I use 12 point ones usually and don't do much technical climbing (but getting there) and I use them whenever in alpine snow conditions if appropriate. Crampon accidents involve broken ankles, legs, causing serious falls when they catch on your clothing or slip off incorrect boots, slicing your legs or even slicing other people's legs. Worst things to have on your feet should you fall because so many people make the mistake of trying to use their feet to slow down - snap their ankle or flip over themselves headfirst.

Ice axes are definitely more for the security and I use mine mostly for support while walking too. But with crampons they are a necessity regardless - and best use is definitely for an extra anchor rather than emergency. Black Diamond have good ones and bad ones. Since I borrow most of mine I use grivels and black diamond, have had to wear some nasty black diamonds and some good ones haha! Grivels are some of the best you can get.