The only joke was the service I got...still have not sent it back, once they do I'm going to have a go at patching it myself.
Reflex was a different stuff, similar but aimed at repelling water more than breathable, still worked, Wilderness was what macpac used to call threir clothing line, then they decided that two seperate brand names doubled their advertising cost so amalgamated under one name.
Looking at Arc'teryx stuff, looks good but pricey, anyone use dry as a bone?
As an aside I dug out an old German army poncho yesterday, some sort of rubber, rather heavy but packs down to a respectable size, has domes and grommets for turning into a tarp, well that thing was the bees knees, bloody long too, kept me very dry in that downpour we had here, not at all breathable but with the sides being domed heat could escape, although prob not as well as pit zips in a new goretex.
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