I was talking specifically about packs here , I seriously doubt anyone is going to pick a 1970s frame over a modern EXO or Kuiu given the choice.
It did make me think in more general terms though, but I cant find one thing from my hunting 45 years ago that Id want back today aside from my young fit healthy body.
Im not sentimental at all and my usual reply to
" they dont make them like they used to" is thank god for that.![]()
Just a slopy retrobate
In 1990 I went from a Mountain Mule type frame pack to a Deuter. The difference was unbelievable. From then on the improvements have been smaller but incremental with each pack I have graded up to. I can't imagine them getting much better now, but I guess they will.
I have a 55 litre Initial Accent and meat sling now, and a straight forward Southern Lite that I like too.
Before you dismiss these modern packs you really have to try them. Give them a fair comparison with your old stuff. They are a world away from the ones that used to rub holes through to your kidneys.
Restraint is the better part of dignity. Don't justify getting even. Do not do unto others as they do unto you if it will cause harm.
Bit more on the Initial Accent (60 litre) I bought. Got stung by GST so final price was close to $1k. Ouch. But it is a beaut. I can use the full pack for taking in to huts etc and than take the bag off and just use the load sling and lid for day hunts. The load sling and lid can carry quite a bit of stuff for a day hunt.
It doesn't make things lighter but it does make the heavy loads so much more comfortable and tolerable than anything else Ive used. And the load on my knees, legs and hips feels so much better balanced.
Recently I carted these 2 bone in legs plus back steaks up out of this gully and the only limiting factor was my body. I left one ok shoulder 'cos I thought it would be too much but half way up I realised I could have had it on board too. Super pleased.
Im aware that others' have gone with Exo packs. I imagine they are as good or better - but I'm happy with my choice. When reading up about packs it seemed that the Exo are the best all rounders but plenty of reviews said that the Initial Accent was the best with very heavy loads. That's what I wanted.
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Last edited by Tahr; 26-08-2024 at 07:29 PM.
Restraint is the better part of dignity. Don't justify getting even. Do not do unto others as they do unto you if it will cause harm.
Thar,
Why not knock the hocks off and make it a bit lighter?
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I like that photo with the pup - nice looking country!
The mystery ranch packs from https://safarisupply.co.nz/collections/all
Carry loads really well. Too many straps for my liking but great carrying. I like a simpler pack but can't complain while I'm walking long distances.
This just isn't true. I've not tried all the old packs obviously but I doubt any of them would have the comfort under heavy load that a new top tier pack does (I've tried a bunch of my old mans old packs - big aluminium frames etc).
If you have a long carry out e.g. more than a day - that can make all the difference.
Pack weight has come down tons over the last few years too.
I've got a Kifaru Hoodlum with Duplex frame (cheers hotsoup - it's still going strong mate) and it's a tank, it can take heavier loads than I can deal with and rides better than any pack I've used before. Worst load I've had in there in just under 60kg.
My only complaint is it's 3.9kg with the lid. I probably need to replace the hip belt as it slips a bit under heavy loads (meant to replace them every 3 years or so I think.. ).
Got my eye on stone glacier sky tallus 6900 (around 2.5kg). Really like the idea of trying one on before buying.
Exo K4 looks really good too - just so expensive.
New Kifaru Ark frame looks interesting.
Heard great things about the Initial Ascent too - good to see it's treating you well Tahr.
This is down near Mt Cook, summer tahr hunt - everything inside the pack (young bull, nanny all legs bone in + camp). Second pic is in the tararuas - four red deer spiker legs (neck shot) + camp - using the meatshelf.
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Just pulled the trigger on a sg col 4800 krux frame to replace my MacPac Torre of 20 years. Fingers crossed it is going to live up to expectation as very expensive! Will be my do all pack…
Nice. Be keen to hear how that goes. Broke my torre been using a tatonka but it doesn't carry the load like the macpac. Onto a kuiu with a 3600 and 5600 bags now yet to really load them up but the fact they sinch down to nothing is awesome compared to the bigger packs.
No problem Parky… Still have my Torre, been a bloody good pack but as I get older looking for any advantage to enable me to keep hunting and these hi tech lightweight USA packs seem to get good feedback for comfort and performance. Will be selling the Torre to help recover some of the outlay for the SG but will hold off until the SG has arrived
I have a Cactus Foray. Carried some decent loads with it. Pretty bulletproof construction.
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