I have a thar XP and prior to that the stoney creek version but in my opinion all they are is a good wind proof garment as they hold water and just become a very damp if not wet article of clothing.
If you want a rain jacket, get a dedicated rain jacket as these aren’t, I bought a milsurp gortex rain jacket and that’s been awesome, even bought a pair of over trousers and I’ve stayed dry.
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