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After taking in all your guys wisdom and freindly advice I nailed 4 mallards(2 hens,2 drakes) cleanly, holy hell what a blast! I am kicking myself that I didn't get into it earlier!!!!
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arrrggh and I think I've learnt to love recoil? there is no other way of describing it!
how was opening day for you and didn't the really sunny weather just piss you off like we had it up here!
Used an Oz 1/8 2's in lead and now steel since I can remember on ducks and geese. Easier to shoot, cheaper and kills as well as anything, have my reservations on steel but thats another issue. Apart from more shot the magnums and the like are IMO a gimmick as the velocity through most gauges is all pretty much the same no matter what the load at 10-15yrds. If your putting your shot in the right place and within 40-50 yrds it doesnt matter what you use, shot size aside.
AMEN to that! I'm not fussed with ammo unless we're talking deer ammo, just as long as its 200ish for a brick and 3" number 4-2's i'm not fussed.....Quote:
Originally Posted by R93
Its a complete gimmick and something I'm refusing to let myself buy into,I'll use the $$$ for more value for money ammo!
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Originally Posted by Rock river arms hunter
Jeez its getting dear. Not so long ago you could buy a seasons worth of ammo for just a bit more than that. Lead shot is still not to badly priced.
really??? I have only shot 1 box of lead at clays and you cant really gauge how effective it is
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Originally Posted by Rock river arms hunter
Eh??
I used the 20 gauge this opening with #4s out of 2 3/4 shells, soft to shoot and lays the smack down on the ducks, we got 40 ducks and my average was 2.1 shots per dead bird (including finishing shots etc which only a couple of were required)
I am now seriously contemplating another 20 and wondering why I kept trying bigger and harder hitting loads all the time in the 12 when you can achieve great things with a lot less...
I like to use a .410 on ponds and looking at a 20g for everything else. 2 3/4inch in 1oz or 1 1/8 of 2's 0r 3's does me for ducks and geese. 12g for clays as it gets expensive for 20g clay ammo firing close to 5000 rds a year.
Looking at the same gun. Ill wait to see if they drop the prices after the season. I see they were 2100ish not long ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tussock
I doubt the M2 will be any cheaper next year , its a pretty sharp price at 2,000 at the mo.
As for steel i still have not got the hang of it, aminly as Im still shooting as if im using lead loads and that dont really work. This opening Ernie was using some Ely cartridges and there was a load of shit in the barrels with them. Also amazed how he knocked a bird for 6 in the air a shit load of feathers came out ffrom breast / underside but it still struggled on coming down way behind in the cover. Reality i think is you have to present the birds as front on as possible and reduce the range for clean kills on steel compared to lead.
I'm using a 20g M2 Benelli as well. Really liking it! Used 3" 1 1/4oz 4's this year (Winchester super phesant). Knocked them down with real authority, and much further out than steel (much to the disapointment of my brother who was shooting 3" 12g Steel)
Where abouts can I get one for this price Tyke?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyke
H and F were doing it for 2199, reloaders advertised for 2100 but not sure if thats just 12g. Either way with a bit of banter and haggling you might be able to get a bit nearer the 2000 mark. Either way if I had the spare cash id be tempted.
Cheers Tyke just waiting on a txt to see if I can still grab one around that price.
Thanks mate. I have just bought a brand spanker for 2gs. Plus a slab of lead, I'm stoked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyke
Good choice, do you mind me asking who you got it from in the end ?
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I see a few on trademe for $2150 from Gun shitty. Theres a 12g for 2 gs on there as well
I know how you feel Tussock, my mates had a good shoot as well. I plan to never miss an opening again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tussock
In my experience I am convinced, having used both types of shot extensively, that lead shot kills quicker at range and retains its energy to the target better. I have noted that steel sometimes inflicts an almost ripping type of wound apposed to a puncture wound. I have never been a fan of using it. It is the main reason I am going to a 20g, so I can go back to lead.
hmmm seems to be a popular trend going to 20ga from what I hear! I mean I went straight for a 12 because hell I know it will do what I want it to do and more,covers all bases and is cheap to shoot...
whats the deal with using lead and 20ga etc?
Anyone tried the new fancy non toxic shot that is both harder and heavyer than lead? imagine it would be expensive but should increase effective range over lead? I dont shoot birds so have no idea.
Scotty from reloaders swears by the stuff and its reasonably expensive, tbh for the price your paying for it you may as well buy federal black cloud... I've also heard people swear not to touch it ever again so be carefull!
"I have learn't to love 3" 36 gram recoil " Its a very effective load ,I quite like it too
36g in 2 3/4" works great too #4's are great for Parries .(lead)
RD1 have Winchester Bushman at a good price
I'm having a couple of mates over, one of whom doesn't want a bruised shoulder..... hmmm i'll put the first 3 rounds in of trap ammo and then pop a mini mag 42gram in there :XD:
should be great fun to see his reaction(safety first)
hmmm mini mag should go well on parries id imagine, haven't actually shot any with lead yet, thought I'd teach myself to get in close for a guarenteed clean kill like i would a deer so i'm very intrested to see how lead performs!
a teacher from school whom i've kept in contact with uses the tungsten stuff in his 16g oau and he loves it, i