Thread: No more Duckshooting??

I think COLFO is being a little bit clever here .
I think it is quite a jump to assume that the wording relates to steel shot and is the end of Duck season .
Headlines of “ End of Duck Shooting “ is what will get the large sector of procrastinators , deniers , and uneducated firearms owners off their fat arses and actually start doing something and hopefully start making some noise about the stupid new laws .
Finally it has started to dawn on average guy .

Originally Posted by Ground Control

I think COLFO is being a little bit clever here .
I think it is quite a jump to assume that the wording relates to steel shot and is the end of Duck season .
Headlines of “ End of Duck Shooting “ is what will get the large sector of procrastinators , deniers , and uneducated firearms owners off their fat arses and actually start doing something and hopefully start making some noise about the stupid new laws .
Finally it has started to dawn on average guy .

Yes, I think the intent of the Bill is steel cored rifle projectiles (think armour piercing) but its getting mileage as there is potential, maybe, to apply this to steel shot. F&G has openly put this on their FB page but, it appears as a bit of a dig at COLFO which again has F&G appearing to be looking at the small picture again and only supporting their guys and not all LFAO.

Originally Posted by kiwijames

Yes, I think the intent of the Bill is steel cored rifle projectiles (think armour piercing) but its getting mileage as there is potential, maybe, to apply this to steel shot. F&G has openly put this on their FB page but, it appears as a bit of a dig at COLFO which again has F&G appearing to be looking at the small picture again and only supporting their guys and not all LFAO.

You cannot rely on the what the police say, this is written law and will apply to you if its wrong, but works in their favour!! Consultation with the firearm fraternity would have helped in draughting these new laws no end!
Read into it they want it their way and fuck you!!

If its written in law it is the law

Whether the police choose to pursue it a completely different matter

You would still be breaking the law, just like with the old E-Cats by law you were the only one able to touch your rifle......

To touch someone elses E-Cat it needed to be changed into your name before you did...completely stupid...but the law is the law...

Originally Posted by kiwijames

Yes, I think the intent of the Bill is steel cored rifle projectiles (think armour piercing) but its getting mileage as there is potential, maybe, to apply this to steel shot. F&G has openly put this on their FB page but, it appears as a bit of a dig at COLFO which again has F&G appearing to be looking at the small picture again and only supporting their guys and not all LFAO.

tungsten or tungsten iron shot maybe cos tungsten is a part of armour piercing ammo not as good as deplete uranium but hell in a pinch it,l do
shit most steel wont even penetrate birds reliably let alone armour.

best thing would be F&G to bring back lead shot. as the law stands yes steel is banned maybe unintentionally but it is still illegal even though the coppers say they wont prosecute you for using it maybe , but if it suits i wouldnt put it past them to backtrack and use this to get at a few people.

yes to rely on the polices god graces would be foolish.
still I don't see shot mentioned specificly am I to use my 20 gauge as a softball bat instead of shooting it?

Originally Posted by Ground Control

I think COLFO is being a little bit clever here .
I think it is quite a jump to assume that the wording relates to steel shot and is the end of Duck season .
Headlines of “ End of Duck Shooting “ is what will get the large sector of procrastinators , deniers , and uneducated firearms owners off their fat arses and actually start doing something and hopefully start making some noise about the stupid new laws .
Finally it has started to dawn on average guy .

A few weeks ago our lawyers were looking carefully at the Police Minister’s definitions of newly prohibited ammunition. One category – termed “enhanced penetration ammunition” – likely includes all steel shot in shotgun cartridges. The definition reads: “Projectiles that have a steel or tungsten carbide penetrator intended to achieve better penetration.”
I’m no lawyer in fact I may be a criminal as I have a box or two.
But.
Im sure that steel shot is not used to infancy penetration but used because greenies wanted it, I think it reduces it effectiveness.
But well done Colfo for trying.

Legislation enacted in haste is almost always bad law.
This is yet another example of unintended consequence of poor law.

It annoys the cr#p out of me when Minister Nash says he's not listening to the gun lobby when he is.
The Police Association is one of the largest gun lobbiest - only they're anti gun, except for themselves.

Originally Posted by Ground Control

I think COLFO is being a little bit clever here .
I think it is quite a jump to assume that the wording relates to steel shot and is the end of Duck season .
Headlines of “ End of Duck Shooting “ is what will get the large sector of procrastinators , deniers , and uneducated firearms owners off their fat arses and actually start doing something and hopefully start making some noise about the stupid new laws .
Finally it has started to dawn on average guy .

Mate absolutely spot on.