Thread: 1080 KILLING FISH

Women fall ill after 1080 drop

I'm afraid all that article does is back up kiwijames point about misinformation, rhetoric and emotion from the antis.
Where is the clinical FACT that the ladies liver function is directly related to exposure to pesticide.
As far as the fish go,
Water breaks down and neutralises 1080 very rapidly, a very desirable quality as far as pesticides go. Fish generally have a high tolerance to 1080. It would be interesting to know how quickly fish can metabolise a sub lethal dose as compared to mammals.
However, we all know 1080 can persist at toxic levels in the carcasses of poisoned mammals given the right conditions (cold & dry) for weeks maybe even months.

You are dangerously wrong on an important fact Motere, and echoing the usual misinformation and spin from the poisoning vested interests.

1080 can last decades in cold clean water and retain its lethality over that long period of time. 1080 does not break down is clean water. Bacterial action , provided water is warm and the correct (and rare in NZ) bacteria are present, might break down 1080 over time.

The two ladies who are ill are being subjected to intensive medical scrutiny at present, after initially having being subjected to ridicule by the poisoners as to their story and their location. It is proven they were telling the truth and the poisoners tried hard to cover their own arses; and at the expense of the reputations and well being of the victims.

Bear in mind, that foreign tourists or children can easily enter areas past warning signs even were drops are well posted and are always a risk factor. If the government persists in lethally poisoning massive areas of publicly accessible land and water then there is obviously an on-going risk that somebody is going to become a victim and it is beyond time when this needs to be recognised.

The DoC warning about potential toxicity of trout is responsible and accurate. It is the unfortunate heading to this thread which is misleading.

In the meantime, the pristine streams and lands of NZ are being polluted and poisoned by nothing less than an extreme and unrealistic tactic; namely the broadcasting of one of the most deadly poisons known to man.

Cheers--

Whose spinning now.

Originally Posted by Woody

You are dangerously wrong on an important fact Motere, and echoing the usual misinformation and spin from the poisoning vested interests.

1080 can last decades in cold clean water and retain its lethality over that long period of time. 1080 does not break down is clean water. Bacterial action , provided water is warm and the correct (and rare in NZ) bacteria are present, might break down 1080 over time.

The two ladies who are ill are being subjected to intensive medical scrutiny at present, after initially having being subjected to ridicule by the poisoners as to their story and their location. It is proven they were telling the truth and the poisoners tried hard to cover their own arses; and at the expense of the reputations and well being of the victims.

Bear in mind, that foreign tourists or children can easily enter areas past warning signs even were drops are well posted and are always a risk factor. If the government persists in lethally poisoning massive areas of publicly accessible land and water then there is obviously an on-going risk that somebody is going to become a victim and it is beyond time when this needs to be recognised.

The DoC warning about potential toxicity of trout is responsible and accurate. It is the unfortunate heading to this thread which is misleading.

In the meantime, the pristine streams and lands of NZ are being polluted and poisoned by nothing less than an extreme and unrealistic tactic; namely the broadcasting of one of the most deadly poisons known to man.

Cheers--

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Originally Posted by gimp

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Originally Posted by Moutere

I'm afraid all that article does is back up kiwijames point about misinformation, rhetoric and emotion from the antis.
Where is the clinical FACT that the ladies liver function is directly related to exposure to pesticide.
As far as the fish go,
Water breaks down and neutralises 1080 very rapidly, a very desirable quality as far as pesticides go. Fish generally have a high tolerance to 1080. It would be interesting to know how quickly fish can metabolise a sub lethal dose as compared to mammals.
However, we all know 1080 can persist at toxic levels in the carcasses of poisoned mammals given the right conditions (cold & dry) for weeks maybe even months.

Never known it to be weeks mate. Months yes.
God forgive!

Originally Posted by Danny

Never known it to be weeks mate. Months yes.
God forgive!

It depends on the natural decay rate doesn't it.