Hungry as feeding up large after spawn before they leave the bay for the deep water to hybernate for winter.
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The bulge from its chin to its anus
Had a great day out yesterday.
Went out from Waikawau and fished the Coro mussel farms.
Found a barge harvesting and got in next to that. We were casting half pillies into the berley trail. It was all action. There were about 4 boats and a couple of jet skis and everyone was hooking up. :cool:
Ended up with 13 nice panniers from 32 up to o 50 cm. Released it nice 10 pounder to keep Tangaroa happy.
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Nice eaters there:thumbsup:
Another couple of salmon this morning.
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Flounder 2 Cam nil.
So I have been waiting for a while for weather and tides to line up for a flounder drag.
Under strict instructions not to drag a net from....my Mum.....my Dad.....my Wife...... so it was lucky the man child was home from camp and the daughter home from freinds places.
Both ultra tired and scratchy:thumbsup:
Decided to drive to a new spot to avoid manhandeling the boat and just walk out.
Well grumpy one and prickly 2 were at each other all the way there....bitched and whined at each other and wouldn't listenin to a bloody word I said so net went out in a mess once and came back tangled up and full of weed....I did see two flounder tho not caught.
By then they were lucky I couldn't run to the truck and leave them there to fight to the death.
They rubbed off on me cos I was a bit shitty on the drive home.
Kids....who'd have em!:D
These were welcome today ..... plenty around, along with big groups of just undersized packies, one monster that bailed as soon as I spotted him Attachment 166000
Nice to see some bugs
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Water was 18 deg so still pretty good
@stingray was keen for a flounder drag and even better he had found another sucker I mean keen guy.
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We tried a few different spots.
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Tides were big and very low.
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We did very well in the end with around 26 nice big flattys.
Cheers Joe and friend.
What VC doesn’t tell you , is how good it is to go with local knowledge. We brought wetsuits and high hopes , VC brought the know how ...how to get a bloody angry stingray out of the trawl ..how to supervise and yell instructions ...
Honestly this was an epic afternoon we’ve tried before catching logs a large Kahawai and shit ..today was just that good ...deep ..neck deep but good ...three harden fisherman set sail ...dragged so much weed we would have made a stoner weep ..then I chose quiet gut ( that was well out of my depth ) VC offered helpful advice like “ keep swimming “ ...my import friend stood beside VC yelling advice like “ don’t worry I’m ok” ...so when I finally beached we dragged the trawl in to find we had snagged 4 flatties
Well that go the blood pumping so another shallower drag was set up , we got a thump ...me yelling “ fuck yeah we’ve got a beauty “ only to see a rather pissed off ray trying to turn our drag into candy floss ...my import mate strove forward to shake the bugger out ...VC was superviseing yelling let it go up tide ...nope ..free then straight back in the net ....more of a cufuffel and it’s away ...then the tide pushed we hauled and well bugger me flounders ..big wide delicious flatties .
Cleaned the weed from the net had a second dig another handful .....Tide and time wait for no man and so it was that was our lot ....cleaned the fish VC brought the boat up ..we headed for home ..words cannot express the worth the knowledge of VC his nets and spots ...thank you from all that will enjoy fresh flounder tonight
I don't think he really needed to go that deep :D
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These guys everywhere, over 12 individuals identified.
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I catch quite a few gurnard by accident. Definitely over sand. Can be over a wide area, but usually concentrated. Small orange soft baits and microjigs fished close to the bottom do the damage. I'm not suggesting this is the best way to catch them, just my experience as a lure fisherman. I think the real grunter hunters use small fish baits presented on ledger rigs fished on the bottom.
I see them while diving around rocky areas, but sitting on the sand beds close by.
I am looking for crays and they sit and watch as I swim past.
Catch them over sand/shell/mud base but rock outcrops here and there.
Burley , current , I like to use salted mackerel , or cubed pilchards ...I prefer anchor and burley (fish based) set about 5 meters off the bottom , ledger rig ,they seem to come in runs get one - three , wait 15 mins and another school moves through. Sand is my preferred bottom. PM VC he’s an avid winter carrot hunter..
Have had a good run on them soft baiting with a nuclear chicken.
Depth doesn’t seem to worry them we get them at 40 meters in the summer right up to 8 meters in the winter.
That said this is all Tasman bay experience. Things maybe different down your way ...try different things , different depths ..everyday is different and some are just tough catching days.
Cheers @Gibo just watched that.
I had no idea [emoji106] Enjoyed it man, thanks [emoji41]
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I’ll stay in the boat and keep the burley flowing :thumbsup:
I am not a pro but I catch a fair few.
Sand/mud bottom. They are bottom feeders feeding on crabs and worm beds.
Here in tasman bay at least in winter (or from anytime from about now on) as temps drop they come up into the shallows.....I have caught plenty in as little as 2m of water but more often than not im in more like 10-20m of water to target them.
Drifting and fishing microjigs /softbaits on or near the bottom will catch them but anchoring up and burlying and using a 2 hook rig with smelly oily baits like pilchard,salted blue makeral is far more effective in my experience. Not uncommon to have two people pulling them in 2 at a time when everything goes right.
I target them by choosing a spot that has a feature like change in bottom type from mud to sand (real handy if your sounder can identify the difference ) or a bank or both so I am rarely fishing the flat middle of a bay unless it is a small one.
Burly trail fishing always works best if you have wind and tide going in the same or nearly the same direction and of course you need current so I try and fish from an hour or so after either high or low threw the tide till the current drops off or I have to many fish to fillet.
If the patch of coast has rocky reef you will need to be far enough away out on the sand/mud to avoid drawing in all those ravinous little bugggers.