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    Quote Originally Posted by terryf View Post
    I think we are moving away from first aid kit and onto medic kit now - huge difference between the two!
    Do we need a new thread....

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    Quote Originally Posted by 223nut View Post
    Do we need a new thread....
    haha, quite possibly
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    This is my home kit. It has a bit more than just FA in it but its all in one place which means I dont have to look for it when I need it.

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    I have the typical car kit in each of the cars and another portable kit with a bit more for day trips with the kids.
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    @Cordite

    Decided not to quote your large post to save everyone scrolling past it, hope you don't mind.. Cheers, I'm well aware of how a sphygmomanometer works, and undoubtedly 300mmHg would be sufficient to provide haemostasis. Interestingly, I see the pressures under a CAT to be around 500mmHg!! I merely meant to suggest that for simplicity and proven performance under stress for the end user that a CAT or SOFT-T Wide etc. would probably be the easiest way to go. There is research (happy to provide articles) suggesting nerve damage resulting from both pneumatic TQ's and standard TQ's. There is also evidence suggesting that most nerve palsy resolves within 3 hours to 3 days in these patients. At the end of the day, I'd much rather some nerve damage (add to the current lot!!) than to bleed out from a blood pressure cuff loosening off over time. Please don't take this as a personal attack on your experience, I am only interested in the discussion really.

    Interesting on the junctional TQ. Have either of you used one? I have used multiple brands, including SAM and and JETT. Good in theory, harder than you'd think to get the correct result, especially with using in the shoulder area. It will definitely be interesting to see how the abdominal aortic TQ's go. Packing is of course another option for some of these wounds.

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    never used an aortic / abdo tourniquet myself, happy to say. (-: Yes interesting to see how they take off. I can see them becoming standard kit a lot of places, including police AOS.
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    Link to article on abdo tourniquet


    https://www.trauma-news.com/2018/06/...lent-to-reboa/

    a quote from it:

    “In addition, the Air Force group looked specifically at traumatic cardiac arrest,” Dr. Croushorn said. “They found that AAJT application and blood transfusion led to 83% survival compared to 17% survival with blood and CPR alone.” (Military Medicine, Volume 182, September 2017)

    “For years we taught medics that if a patient is in cardiac arrest from bleeding out, there is no reason to do CPR,” he said. “Now, with the AAJT, we can actually save most of these people, and that’s because of the REBOA effect of this device.”
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    super glue and an Israeli dressing, its all I have ever needed and all I carry.
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    Super glue. Electrical/ duct tape and gladwrap. A few smallish gauze pads. If I can't get it done with that and walk out under own steam then it is gonna be a helicopter ride.

    I was guilty of carrying Army medic size/style kits until I realized if its that bad you need all that stuff you are going to need evac anyway.

    But if you want to carry that sort of kit....I will never think less of you.
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    I should add if it wasn't cost prohibitive I would like to also carry an Epipen. Not for myself but in case I came across someone who needs one. Fucken criminal what they cost vs shelf life though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Preacher View Post
    I should add if it wasn't cost prohibitive I would like to also carry an Epipen. Not for myself but in case I came across someone who needs one. Fucken criminal what they cost vs shelf life though.
    Not for everyone i agree but if your into it get one of these, available from chemist.
    https://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co....d.php?p=672838

    Re epipens : As i understand it ACC will replace a pen if it is used, but not if it expires


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    Quote Originally Posted by Preacher View Post
    I should add if it wasn't cost prohibitive I would like to also carry an Epipen. Not for myself but in case I came across someone who needs one. Fucken criminal what they cost vs shelf life though.
    No shit, Epi pens are a bloody stupid price. Maxi pads and tampons are really good for stuffing into wounds, cheap and work damn well, pretty sure the ladies will concur.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oneshot View Post
    No shit, Epi pens are a bloody stupid price. Maxi pads and tampons are really good for stuffing into wounds, cheap and work damn well, pretty sure the ladies will concur.
    I’ve heard from two different sources you don’t wanna do that... One St Johns workplace first aid n other trained with the army...


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    Wouldn't use a tampon again. Surgeons later said it was harder to get fine fibres out of wound than it was to deal with initial damage. At the time it was the only thing available.

 

 

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