Thread: 7 million new shooters since march.

Originally Posted by Mr Browning

Time to start an ammo company in NZ

Where have you been for the last 57 years? https://tinyurl.com/y9hc3b8s

We do have one, admittedly not producing an across across the board range of ammunition and it can be affected by a shortage or lack of raw materials, but I am sure they hold adequate and suitable stocks of product and raw materials to carry them through unexpected but not prolonged "blockages."

Originally Posted by Kiwi Sapper

Where have you been for the last 57 years? "

Well I be dammed, never knew they were made in Nz

Hornady put out a similar video too.

I went to a gun store for the first time in months just for a bit of fun yesterday. They had lots of hunting rifles but limited amounts of AR type rifles. They also had a Grand Power Stribog and CZ Scorpion I wouldn't mind owning. Plenty of pistols on offer. But very little ammo or reloading supplies. They had an OK stock of hunting ammo but almost nothing else, nothing ordinary like 5.56 or 9mm or 357 Magnum or whatever. Plenty of magazines too. So kinda weird, there were plenty of guns but not a lot of ammo for them. I'd imagine the gun store is in a tough spot because for new gun owners you could buy that Stribog or a Glock but not have any ammo for it, so it's a paperweight or wall hanger.

I think that's why the left's next angle of attack will be ammo or reloading supplies. Oh you wanna have that AR-15, sure, your 2nd Amendment right yeah whatever, but we'll restrict or tax your ammo so much you can't shoot it. The obama administration tried going after ammo with limited success. They did get some types of 5.45x39 banned from import.

In regards to paranoia I saw mentioned, Americans are well aware of world history and the many tens of millions killed by totalitarian regimes in the past 120 years, so we know the score and we know the marxists/totalitarian/great reset crowd very much has plans and designs on moving forward with their schemes for power and control.

For me, well I learned my lesson during the last big run on everything, so not only did I buy a ton of factory ammo but also went from nothing to 3 reloading presses with plenty of supplies on the shelf.

Thanks for proving my point perfectly.

Originally Posted by Spitfire

Thanks for proving my point perfectly.

It's not your point. It's your perspective.

He has rights.

As a New Zealander, you have none. Only privileges. We can only hope people will be kind to us. It's not a given. There is nothing stopping anyone from stripping you of your freedom and resources.

England could sell you to China in a post Brexit trade deal. Wouldn't be a damn thing you could do about it.




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Originally Posted by Tussock

It's not your point. It's your perspective.

He has rights.

As a New Zealander, you have none. Only privileges. We can only hope people will be kind to us. It's not a given. There is nothing stopping anyone from stripping you of your freedom and resources.

England could sell you to China in a post Brexit trade deal. Wouldn't be a damn thing you could do about it.




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Its an exercise in semantics. You either are free to do something or you arent. Those freedoms are rights. If a goverment has banned you from doing something it has taken your rights. Their 'dripping with benevolence' phrasing doesnt change the facts. We are trusted and free, or we are crushed by bad press and an ignorant public/corrupt politicians. Theres no third option in reality.

Just to give some perspective o the American situation, look at these and also check out the price of pistol ammuniton

https://www.midwayusa.com/handgun-am...3D1%26Ntpr%3D1

https://www.midwayusa.com/rimfire-am...on/br?cid=7547

https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/cci-...C-AMM-076.html

New Zealand is a small and a long way from any major problems since colonisation, we have relatively low crime. We simply haven't/don't needed to defend ourselves so it's not part of our national psyche.

The Germans laid a few mines in WW1 the Japanese flew over in WW2 for a look.

We simply don't understand.

Originally Posted by 300CALMAN

New Zealand is a small and a long way from any major problems since colonisation, we have relatively low crime. We simply haven't/don't needed to defend ourselves so it's not part of our national psyche.

The Germans laid a few mines in WW1 the Japanese flew over in WW2 for a look.

We simply don't understand.

True.

And not to denigrate New Zealand because I love this country but realistically, it's never stood (as a nation), for anything on its own. It's never gone it alone.

Originally Posted by Ryan

True.

And not to denigrate New Zealand because I love this country but realistically, it's never stood (as a nation), for anything on its own. It's never gone it alone.

To be fair, it's not needed to but that in turn has lead to complacency.

Originally Posted by Ryan

True.

And not to denigrate New Zealand because I love this country but realistically, it's never stood (as a nation), for anything on its own. It's never gone it alone.

No it's a great place to be. However, lets not make the mistake of assuming our experience applies to the rest of the world or assume things will always continue the same here.

The fact that we've arrived at this point is telling.

We used to engage in same activities as our elders did. People used to write to gift givers after Christmas to show their appreciation. Engagement in shooting activities was the norm, not the exception. Now the shoe is on the other foot. How did it get here?

Originally Posted by Ryan

The fact that we've arrived at this point is telling.

We used to engage in same activities as our elders did. People used to write to gift givers after Christmas to show their appreciation. Engagement in shooting activities was the norm, not the exception. Now the shoe is on the other foot. How did it get here?

Technology I think.,.
Cell phones in particular , computer games , social media etc.
'entertainment' at your fingertips. No need to go outside and play anymore. Who wants to shoot rabbits with a 22 when you can assault a compound with grenades and an M60 from the comfort of the sofa with your mates who are on their sofa assaulting the same compound and chatting with you through the interwebs.
And with social media being the perfect platform for constant brainwashing from all and sundry telling you how terrible it was with your father/grandfather murdering animals for food and so on....

Originally Posted by Ftx325

Technology I think.,.
Cell phones in particular , computer games , social media etc.
'entertainment' at your fingertips. No need to go outside and play anymore. Who wants to shoot rabbits with a 22 when you can assault a compound with grenades and an M60 from the comfort of the sofa with your mates who are on their sofa assaulting the same compound and chatting with you through the interwebs.
And with social media being the perfect platform for constant brainwashing from all and sundry telling you how terrible it was with your father/grandfather murdering animals for food and so on....

Nothing to do with technology, its urbanization.
Most people are so far removed from rural life that they have little to no understanding of life outside the city.

You don't need to talk for very long to realize just how different folk who spend all their time in the city are.
It's not that their life is wrong but unfortunately they get to vote on how life is done in the rural sector despite knowing nothing about it other than the crap they are feed by stuff and green peace.

Fortunately the founding fathers in America saw that happening to some degree and created the electoral college.