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    if link don't work here is what it says
    AUCKLAND COUNCIL DECIDES SHOOTING AND CAMPING ARE ILLEGAL

    Auckland Council has changed how it interprets the Resource Management Act, by denying that there is a provision for some level of discharge under section 5.5.41 of the act. It has recently
    revoked a certificate of compliance for the Auckland Shooting Club on the basis that there "may be" discharge of contaminants, despite a High Court ruling that the activity is allowed, and processes in place to ensure that no discharge will occur. Auckland Council was required by the High Court to simply reconsider the issue of the certificate taking into account the discharge permitted under the act.

    On 19 December of last year, Auckland Council wrote in a letter that the Auckland Shooting Club ranges “..may need a consent to discharge contaminants in the long term, at this stage there is no evidence of any discharge to trigger the need for a discharge consent.”

    However, Auckland Council has reversed its own interpretation that it has applied to all permitted activities until now.

    The RMA prohibits any discharge unless there is a specific rule. As Auckland Council has decided on its own that the only rule that allows for discharge up to a certain level has no meaning, there is no provision for any activity that has a small discharge. This means that legally Auckland Council can’t ‘give you a pass’ because a discharge is small. By its own interpretation,
    Auckland Council no longer has a legal basis for allowing even small discharges and must require a consent for any discharge. Auckland Council has now made many past-times illegal for
    New Zealanders in the Auckland region.

    The result of this Auckland Council decision is that no minimum discharge is allowed without a consent. This means that no matter where you live in Auckland the following will require a
    resouce consent for every property on which they are conducted:
    • pest control shooting (e.g. possums);
    • duck shooting;
    • other shooting for hunting purposes;
    • target shooting of any kind;
    • camping
    • painting your house;
    • building where there is any run-off- e.g. from concrete slabs;
    • etc.
    There will be many other things that you now cannot do without a resource consent. Using Wet and Forget? - Forget It. This will now need a resource consent. The application fee alone for a
    discharge resource consent is $11,500, and you will need consultant reports and be required to pay any other council costs. All discharge consents will also require iwi consultation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paddy79 View Post
    if link don't work here is what it says
    AUCKLAND COUNCIL DECIDES SHOOTING AND CAMPING ARE ILLEGAL

    Auckland Council has changed how it interprets the Resource Management Act, by denying that there is a provision for some level of discharge under section 5.5.41 of the act. It has recently
    revoked a certificate of compliance for the Auckland Shooting Club on the basis that there "may be" discharge of contaminants, despite a High Court ruling that the activity is allowed, and processes in place to ensure that no discharge will occur. Auckland Council was required by the High Court to simply reconsider the issue of the certificate taking into account the discharge permitted under the act.

    On 19 December of last year, Auckland Council wrote in a letter that the Auckland Shooting Club ranges “..may need a consent to discharge contaminants in the long term, at this stage there is no evidence of any discharge to trigger the need for a discharge consent.”

    However, Auckland Council has reversed its own interpretation that it has applied to all permitted activities until now.

    The RMA prohibits any discharge unless there is a specific rule. As Auckland Council has decided on its own that the only rule that allows for discharge up to a certain level has no meaning, there is no provision for any activity that has a small discharge. This means that legally Auckland Council can’t ‘give you a pass’ because a discharge is small. By its own interpretation,
    Auckland Council no longer has a legal basis for allowing even small discharges and must require a consent for any discharge. Auckland Council has now made many past-times illegal for
    New Zealanders in the Auckland region.

    The result of this Auckland Council decision is that no minimum discharge is allowed without a consent. This means that no matter where you live in Auckland the following will require a
    resouce consent for every property on which they are conducted:
    • pest control shooting (e.g. possums);
    • duck shooting;
    • other shooting for hunting purposes;
    • target shooting of any kind;
    • camping
    • painting your house;
    • building where there is any run-off- e.g. from concrete slabs;
    • etc.
    There will be many other things that you now cannot do without a resource consent. Using Wet and Forget? - Forget It. This will now need a resource consent. The application fee alone for a
    discharge resource consent is $11,500, and you will need consultant reports and be required to pay any other council costs. All discharge consents will also require iwi consultation.
    More bureaucratic bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paddy79 View Post
    if link don't work here is what it says
    AUCKLAND COUNCIL DECIDES SHOOTING AND CAMPING ARE ILLEGAL

    Auckland Council has changed how it interprets the Resource Management Act, by denying that there is a provision for some level of discharge under section 5.5.41 of the act. It has recently
    revoked a certificate of compliance for the Auckland Shooting Club on the basis that there "may be" discharge of contaminants, despite a High Court ruling that the activity is allowed, and processes in place to ensure that no discharge will occur. Auckland Council was required by the High Court to simply reconsider the issue of the certificate taking into account the discharge permitted under the act.

    On 19 December of last year, Auckland Council wrote in a letter that the Auckland Shooting Club ranges “..may need a consent to discharge contaminants in the long term, at this stage there is no evidence of any discharge to trigger the need for a discharge consent.”

    However, Auckland Council has reversed its own interpretation that it has applied to all permitted activities until now.

    The RMA prohibits any discharge unless there is a specific rule. As Auckland Council has decided on its own that the only rule that allows for discharge up to a certain level has no meaning, there is no provision for any activity that has a small discharge. This means that legally Auckland Council can’t ‘give you a pass’ because a discharge is small. By its own interpretation,
    Auckland Council no longer has a legal basis for allowing even small discharges and must require a consent for any discharge. Auckland Council has now made many past-times illegal for
    New Zealanders in the Auckland region.

    The result of this Auckland Council decision is that no minimum discharge is allowed without a consent. This means that no matter where you live in Auckland the following will require a
    resouce consent for every property on which they are conducted:
    • pest control shooting (e.g. possums);
    • duck shooting;
    • other shooting for hunting purposes;
    • target shooting of any kind;
    • camping
    • painting your house;
    • building where there is any run-off- e.g. from concrete slabs;
    • etc.
    There will be many other things that you now cannot do without a resource consent. Using Wet and Forget? - Forget It. This will now need a resource consent. The application fee alone for a
    discharge resource consent is $11,500, and you will need consultant reports and be required to pay any other council costs. All discharge consents will also require iwi consultation.
    @Rushy

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    Quote Originally Posted by upnorth uplander View Post
    Yep, read it. The ASC club president has issued a st.atement to all members that they cannot run any club organised events until they get this sorted but in the meantime if members want to go on up for a blat session then the land owner has said fill your boots.
    It takes 43 muscle's to frown and 17 to smile, but only 3 for proper trigger pull.
    What more do we need? If we are above ground and breathing the rest is up to us!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rushy View Post
    Yep, read it. The ASC club president has issued a st.atement to all members that they cannot run any club organised events until they get this sorted but in the meantime if members want to go on up for a blat session then the land owner has said fill your boots.
    World famous in NZ @Rushy!!!

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/977...shooting-event

    Comments on the New Zealand Hunting and Shooting website suggest Auckland Shooters Club members have permission to still use the Makarau property, but that no events can be held.
    PS - Don't bother reading this article unless you want to be disappointed, it is complete rubbish by a writer that didn't bother doing any research just basically printed some hearsay and rumour... not surprising as it is Stuff.co.nz
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    has any one seen this post is it serious?
    https://www.facebook.com/aklshooting...29129753857671

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    what classifies as "auckland"? been years since i lived there

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    Quote Originally Posted by gonetropo View Post
    what classifies as "auckland"? been years since i lived there

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    Quote Originally Posted by gonetropo View Post
    what classifies as "auckland"? been years since i lived there
    It is a bloody sight bigger now since the seven councils merged. Essentially cost to coast from Welsford in the North to Pukekohe in the South. A complete and utter Shemozel.
    It takes 43 muscle's to frown and 17 to smile, but only 3 for proper trigger pull.
    What more do we need? If we are above ground and breathing the rest is up to us!
    Rule 1: Treat every firearm as loaded
    Rule 2: Always point firearms in a safe direction
    Rule 3: Load a firearm only when ready to fire
    Rule 4: Identify your target beyond all doubt
    Rule 5: Check your firing zone
    Rule 6: Store firearms and ammunition safely
    Rule 7: Avoid alcohol and drugs when handling firearms

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    Damn you're quick Ryan.
    It takes 43 muscle's to frown and 17 to smile, but only 3 for proper trigger pull.
    What more do we need? If we are above ground and breathing the rest is up to us!
    Rule 1: Treat every firearm as loaded
    Rule 2: Always point firearms in a safe direction
    Rule 3: Load a firearm only when ready to fire
    Rule 4: Identify your target beyond all doubt
    Rule 5: Check your firing zone
    Rule 6: Store firearms and ammunition safely
    Rule 7: Avoid alcohol and drugs when handling firearms

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    The so-called "Super City"... much the same way as impacted fecal matter is a super turd.
    Last edited by Ryan; 01-09-2017 at 05:29 PM.
    Paddy79 likes this.

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    I fought against the addition of "all locations where shooting had taken place" to this list:

    Hazardous Activities and Industries List (HAIL) | Ministry for the Environment

    Would have made most of Rural Land "Potentially Contaminated" so not just an Auckland thing.

    It's PC madness...

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    Legislators gonna legislate.

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    Well just remember how it came into being, BTW these are likely staff decisions not elected people before someone goes all political (totally prohibited on this forum).

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    Where do these people come from! No more H4 fence posts and definitely no Landrovers

 

 

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