Hey guys, going to make a steel gong target to practice my long range shooting. Been researching different thicknesses and grades of steel. Any ideas or past experience? Might save me some time and error. Shooting with 155 gr .308 at 200 yards plus
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Hey guys, going to make a steel gong target to practice my long range shooting. Been researching different thicknesses and grades of steel. Any ideas or past experience? Might save me some time and error. Shooting with 155 gr .308 at 200 yards plus
How far do you wnt to shoot at it and how good are you? IE how big do you need it
PM me your add and il send you a bit of bizalloy
16mm bisalloy 400 is what most use
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I use mild steel 12mm x 10" disc hung on chain links , 208 amax's at 2850 fps will crater 500 down and hole the plate close up ,the bigger the mild plate the less it deflects on impact = lots off holes , 208 just splash on mine and dont leave any damage 600 yrds upwards. 210 VLD knock the mild round just stick a bolt and nut throu the hole , mild is cheap i got mine for about 20 bucks a disc .
I have 12mm Biz400 and would recomend 16mm
I would not recomend mild steel as after some use its harder to spot you hits as it gets so dented and pitted (yes I have plenty of munted mild plates up to 40mm thick but still have my first 4 12mm plates and 3 are fine....one got left and got a smashing at 100 with all sorts of cals) where as biz 400 a coat of paint and its like new again (12mm should be OK for 308 past 200 but 16 seams to take anything you throw at it)
Yep, 16mm Bis400 is great. It is what i use for nearly all my targets. 3/8" Bis500 seems to be what most target manufacturers use.
We currently have some boiler fitters at work and they are gonna sort me out for steel i hope.
I have my eye on a couple of pipe blanks that are about 10 inch round and 2 thick.
Not sure last one I sent up north was probably 20kilo and I got away with one sticker(should have had 2) that i think is 30 bucks.
A 10inch circle would be under 10kilo.
AR500 is meant to be the best grade of steel for targets as it doesn't crater and you can control the splash zone
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Is that for biz Gav?
Yes, biz 400
Gutshot,Lurcher and howa308 will have a gong on there way today or sat.
Others who pmd me sorry thats all I have got at the mo. Till I next work on a crusher or dozer blade:)
Hi Vietnamcam, Thank you very much! as per my pm, just let me know what the postage etc is.
The gong arrived yesterday, I had expected a simple bit of metal with work still to do.... what I got from Vietnamcam was the finished product! really chuffed and thanks for doing that for me.
Sweet as
Steel arrived, was a laugh, 480 staff at my work. Store guys were trying to find "gunshot" thank you
hey guy's i'm looking to get some Bisalloy steel for shooting anyone have any spare or for sale been looking everywhere and can't find any cheers. :yaeh am not durnk:
You good bastard @veitnamcam
As long as the steel has these properties, you'll be fine. Bizalloy/ Hardox etc is brand name as far as I understand it. The harder steel is not more expensive than mild. Hard steel generally secure a complete disintegration of the bullet, mild does not. Thicker steel is not more expensive either, but you will pay more for it as steel normally is sold by the kg (at least here)
Hardness HBW 380 or more for 12mm, 425 or more 8mm plates
Typical yield strenght 1100 - 1300 Mpa.
The main difference between armour 500 plates is that their yield strength is guaranteed, whilst non-armour steel doesn't guarantee the yield strength - just sample the lot. For a shooter, no difference or consequence if he gets a bad lot and a bullet goes through.
You can get some ideas for cheap, durable stands here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOteCxV4SOg
Here harder steels are a lot more expensive by weight than mild steel.
Hardox and bisalloy are brands but the two are different steels,hardox is more dent resistant and is designed for the likes of a rock deck on a tipper truck(to resist denting from rock being dropped on it)
Bisaloy is more designed as a work hardening wear surface and is exceptionaly tough as well.
What it means for shooting at, is there is basically no difference between them for shooting at.:thumbsup:
Highly recommend using "400" plus for shooting at as it is hard enough to splat the bullet and it all goes at 90deg to impact, mild if thick enough to resist penetration will crater heavily and send bullet or parts of back in drirection of impact,this is bloody scary! and dangerous.
Not so much of an issue at long range but certainly something to be aware of :)
Well put. Mild steel can also leave larger chunks of bullets alive with significantly more energy potential than the usual 5-10m "spray" (mostly downwards if plate is hung) if it is hard steel.
Some of mine are 12mm mild steel at 10" rounds , 208 A max sprays of them leaving a grey splash 600 yards VLD will deep crater at that distance . both projectiles go right thru 12mm mild from a little under 500 . Al tho i have done i don't use any of the mild gongs under 900 VLD's will still give them some cratering at that range . Generally all i need do is fresh coat of paint make'm almost new again ,at 900 up for me they perform almost as good as the Bisaloy gongs , and cheap as chips some thing like 5 bucks a plate cut . i will say im not recommending using the mild but just saying i do and have found they work ok at range .
Just getting prices for gong was thinking the following
450x450 square with 2 x hole at top for a shackle for hanging
Material bizalloy 400 @ 16mm, (quote has wear 400, so must be a similar material)
also have an option for 20mm (extra $30 tho and 6 kg weight)
Not a permanent set up and wanting size to 'see' where the rounds end up
Thoughts and experiences ??
Ta
Those plates of mine that you have shot, are 500x500 12mm hardox 450. Nothing has ever marked them. Bullets just disintegrate and spash on impact. When painted white, you are left with a very visable dark grey splash mark which is visible thru your scope out as far as ive ever shot them, 700 yards.
I really like the larger plates, we just spray a 2" pink bull on centre of white background. The larger plate easily lets you see where you are hitting and you can adjust accordingly, rather than potentially missing a smaller plate and maybe not knowing 'where' your bullet went.
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Funny this thread got new life, in a few days I'll be looking at gong, freight is going to be a killer for me though so will see what eople have lying around. Think I know of an old tractor front end loader that could be used.
Found this old fireplace grate at the river gona whack it up the hill behind the house.Hammer it into the ground.
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It is very heavy should work as it is quite thick.
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Hoping to find something similar at the recycling centre! I also know of an old fire that is dead.
Problem I have is I'm guna have to carry them in to my 'range' unless I manage to get the quad through the bush
Yip that worked:thumbsup:
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Any one want to guess the range from the deck?
One shot shattered the projectile.
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Ring Fletcher Easysteel in Auckland. For a whole host of safety reasons, get nothing less than 10mm Bis500 plate, and angle it down at 20 deg to prevent ricochets. The extra cost of the higher grade steel is negligible, and could well save your life or that of a loved one. Search the forum, its all been discussed before.
Never ceases to amaze me that we spend thousands on rifles and optics and ammo, but are prepared to risk lives with a piece of shitty old steel for a gong that costs $50-$100.
In my experience there's no need to angle them down when shooting at long range as the bullet is basically falling from the sky on that angle anyway.
Just hAve them hung from top and able to swing free. Ive never not had a bullet that hasn't exploded on my plates anyway.
Anything over 16mm is a waste of money and weight, 10-12mm bis seems to handle it no worries.
Must be High Tensile eg bis400+ , mild steel gets chewed up in no time.
Go and check out the thread at http://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co.nz/f32/gongs-28014/ and read all the postings. all the info relating to plate is there.