Thread: Farmlands

Originally Posted by caberslash

Holy shit that is a silly law.

Springs go in guns, so it is a part, so if someone owns a spring shop and it just so happens that some of those springs are the same dimensions, say as one for an AR buffer or a long recoil semi shotgun, they own gun parts.

If someone carves a 1:1 functional stock out of a block of wood, they have made a gun part?

Book burning bonfire when?

You are correct is is an utterly stupid law to bring in, but then again its what you get when you implement complex law in a week. The onus of proof will probably fall to the spring shop owner to prove its not a gun part, but its an easy one to disprove.

Originally Posted by Percy Jones

Its a bit shortsighted and unfair for everyone to shit on farmlands and not support them now they are not selling ammo. The regulatory shit they have thrust on them is large. Would people still buy the ammo if the price increased say 40% to cover the implementation of all the storage and admin they will now have to deal with?

Its a simple business decision they made, however its more of the death by 1000 cuts we are getting.

Lastly, Do you know that from the 24th of December the possesion of any gun part at all by an unlicenced person could cost them 5 years in prision or a 10K fine. Thats anything at all.

Can you post a link or source regarding the 24th? I'd like to read it.

Originally Posted by Danger Mouse

Can you post a link or source regarding the 24th? I'd like to read it.

Read the legislation on the govt website. I think its also on the police website.

Originally Posted by zimmer

Had great hopes for Farmlands when I became a shareholder 10 or more years ago. Overall, they have lost the plot though, probably around the time of amalgamation.

A farm supply outfit not selling ammo, sheez.

FarmSource is my go to supplier nowadays, despite me not being a Fonterra fan.

Agree with the comment RE Farmlands losing the plot. They posted a net profit before tax of $7 million but that was with an $8.8 million Covid wage subsidy (while continuing to operate and sell supplies to their customers during lockdown. Farm Source didn’t take the subsidy...), and were provided with significant rent relief from their landlords. They would’ve posted a big loss without that support. Their obsession with market share at the expense of margin has caused a self perpetuated financial reaming. Sucks that they are moving away from stocking ammo but no skin off my nose, I’ll happily give my cash to another NZ owned cooperative (Farm Source)

I always thought the license thing was mandatory? you had to have a license to buy it for years now. GC have been running the book thing for ammo for a while.
It would be nice if farmlands did the right thing, but i do get it. If they only have a couple of people with licenses, and they are off, does that mean they cant sell it and put up a sign for no sales today?
This sort of thing will stuff up my gun club, and probably all the other gun clubs around. in our case not so much as it isnt stored on site, but it is more paperwork to fill out.
only a small club though. A big NZCTA club would have a PITA with this.

Apart from anything else there is another element to consider. I have always brought falcon and or fiocchi ammunition for duck shooting and vI club and Olympic for clay target.
All are made in nz by target products, and their main national distributor were farmlands. Now they will be left with small independent sports goods retailers increasing the amount of work to make multiple small sales, so it is possible that those brands will dissapear.
I rang 3 h n f stores about fiocchi no they don't stock it but have other brands they want to sell. Pretty sure the same will apply to gun city,
Hnf and gun city are what farmlands calls brand partners and are promising that good deals for card holders after ammunition and hunting supplies will be announced shortly

Originally Posted by Marty Henry

Apart from anything else there is another element to consider. I have always brought falcon and or fiocchi ammunition for duck shooting and vI club and Olympic for clay target.
All are made in nz by target products, and their main national distributor were farmlands. Now they will be left with small independent sports goods retailers increasing the amount of work to make multiple small sales, so it is possible that those brands will dissapear.
I rang 3 h n f stores about fiocchi no they don't stock it but have other brands they want to sell. Pretty sure the same will apply to gun city,
Hnf and gun city are what farmlands calls brand partners and are promising that good deals for card holders after ammunition and hunting supplies will be announced shortly

Gun City are no longer brand partners. They dropped out earlier this year.

Originally Posted by Marty Henry

Hnf and gun city are what farmlands calls brand partners and are promising that good deals for card holders after ammunition and hunting supplies will be announced shortly

No discounts / deals on ammo and firearms for brand partners - you can't even use Farmlands vouchers to purchase them! Apparently not enough margin in it to give permanent discounts. Other hunting supplies is a different story.

Can hardly blame them. If you aren't a gun shop that's an awful lot of extra fucking around and liability.

Originally Posted by Beavis

Can hardly blame them. If you aren't a gun shop that's an awful lot of extra fucking around and liability.

Have to agree with this one. I'm based in Taranaki and spend a fair bit of time in the Hawkes Bay. Only the Bell Block farmlands had any significant range of ammunition. The others had a couple of pack of 22, maybe 223, 303 & 308. The amount if shotgun ammo depended on how close duck shooting was.

They didn't have enough to make it worth going in there to look for ammo. Not their core business or interest.

Bell Block only has a decent range of ammo because one of their staff is ex H&F. It's his interest.

If we had all bought more ammo from farmlands, maybe they would have kept selling it.

But it was never their main business, and it's become too much work and too expensive for them

Another one bites the dust. A great example of changing ammunition available bymaking things expensive rather than illegal. easier to get under the radar

Dropped into Farmlands Hastings and Napier looking for ammo today, no 22lr supersonic at all, but I grabbed a slab (250rds) of 12g winchester super X 4 shot for $150.

More like a wet bus ticket

Are Horsewhips legal?

Originally Posted by Woody

Are Horsewhips legal?

@Woody Having been a Pony Club Instructor, a Rider to Hounds and a Senior Show Jumping judge for many years, I can authoritatively tell you, yes.
HOWEVER, (there is always a however,) conditions apply as to the type and, dare I say it, method and location of their application.

Back on topic - popped in to local Farmlands this morning to grab a few boxes of 223. Fiocchi USA 55sp 50-packs at 78c/round at the clearance prices. Hard to beat that anywhere else..

Shelves were emptying pretty quick, so don’t waste time if you’re after anything.

Still had a bit of 222, 308, 7-08, 22mag, 22, plenty of shotgun, various other stuff..

Staffer agreed with my comment of ‘strangulation by red tape’ and described the situation as ridiculous.