Originally Posted by
Micky Duck
once again you have missed the common ground......I will type it slowly for you.....the purpose of a good bedding job is to reduce the variables.... Great, but putting some epoxy in your action reduces one variable, which may or may not be relevant. Are you trying to tell me bedding is some kind of a magic fix? If the action is inside the stock, the rifle is bedded. Did you relieve one side of the bedding lug? How long could we sit here and discuss types of bedding, types of bedding compound etc etc. These are VARIABLES. Shall we argue the length of a piece of string?
as is good CONSISTANT technique.
return to battery is the term used I believe to desribe how bedding works.
you say you can shoot the same of many contorted positions...umm helloooo thats the opposite of consistant...so you have to be VERY good at getting what you can to be the same...see even there there is common ground...consistancy is the key..repeatability is another way to say it..
Can you explain what you are repeating? What is it you are repeating? Do you repeat the same ammo, same rifle, same shooter, same position, same weather, same location, or do you allow yourself a few extra variables and take your rifle hunting? If so, which variables matter? What are your RELEVANT variables? The point I am making here is you have not actually said anything. I said it is possible to shoot the rifles potential from contorted positions. This is true, because I need to be extremely consistent with the relevant variables, and my body position is not relevant
doesnt matter a shit if that is a 3 or 5 shot group or 1 shot today and 1 shot in a months time....if its not consistant it wont consistantly hit where it was supposed to be aimed at....
You just summed up why so many people shoot "1/2 MOA" groups at the range and can't hit the side of a barn in the field. The field is not consistent. You could get a PhD in science, and I'm not taking the piss. This is how top scientists think. They isolate all the variables in the lab and they make all kinds of experiments, but try to get them to do something real and practical outdoors:sick: If I asked you how you shoot accurately of whatever the hell is next to you, next time you shoot a deer, how do you practice? What is the chances the thing next to you is a log and not a bench rest?
the very WHY of shotgun fit.....if a shotgun fits the shooter properly they can hit targets in all sorts of weird situations as gun becomes an extension of shooter... its consistantly the same.
This is shotgun shooting. The shotgun is an extension of the shooter because everything is moving. Shooting a rifle is the reverse. Nothing is moving and the shooter becomes an extension of the rifle, the fit matters, but less so. Personally I try to become an extension of the ground.