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Thread: Target size for training

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    Target size for training

    I’ve decided to start up a bit of a accuracy/training exercise .
    My thoughts were to practice shooting at a 4 inch steel gong and see how far I can consistently hit it ( 5 out of 5 times ) from Prone / Bipod , sitting/ shooting sticks and standing leaning on a tree or structure.
    It will be interesting to see where my current limits are and if I can increase them with practice .
    Practice small , Hit small Hunting .
    Has anyone else done this sort of thing and how big a practice target did you use ?
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    my advice would be to stick with one discipline for a start - first prone using sand bags or bipod or sitting at a proper shooting bench - get your breathing - hold - trigger all good and you can shoot tight groups without fliers then start trying other disciplines - standing is likely the hardest so try that last
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    When I had a long range set of targets up on a permanent basis on my previous property, I used the 1 MOA width as a measure so I would have had your 4 inch target set at 400 yards. This actually gives you half an MOA from the centre to the edge of the target and really makes you hone your skills.
    It takes 43 muscle's to frown and 17 to smile, but only 3 for proper trigger pull.
    What more do we need? If we are above ground and breathing the rest is up to us!
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    I work a bit differently, often shooting by myself so if the target is a bit bigger than the desired poi you can see the hits. Chasing your tail with unseen impacts can make your shooting worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gibo View Post
    I work a bit differently, often shooting by myself so if the target is a bit bigger than the desired poi you can see the hits. Chasing your tail with unseen impacts can make your shooting worse.
    Bloody Nigel no mate aye? Get a buddy to spot you man!
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    It takes 43 muscle's to frown and 17 to smile, but only 3 for proper trigger pull.
    What more do we need? If we are above ground and breathing the rest is up to us!
    Rule 1: Treat every firearm as loaded
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    Rule 4: Identify your target beyond all doubt
    Rule 5: Check your firing zone
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    Rule 7: Avoid alcohol and drugs when handling firearms

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rushy View Post
    When I had a long range set of targets up on a permanent basis on my previous property, I used the 1 MOA width as a measure so I would have had your 4 inch target set at 400 yards. This actually gives you half an MOA from the centre to the edge of the target and really makes you hone your skills.
    Standard target at the bull used to inch x inch at 100, 2 inch x 2 inch at 200 and so on
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bos View Post
    Standard target at the bull used to inch x inch at 100, 2 inch x 2 inch at 200 and so on
    Yep that’s the go.
    It takes 43 muscle's to frown and 17 to smile, but only 3 for proper trigger pull.
    What more do we need? If we are above ground and breathing the rest is up to us!
    Rule 1: Treat every firearm as loaded
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    Rule 4: Identify your target beyond all doubt
    Rule 5: Check your firing zone
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    Rule 7: Avoid alcohol and drugs when handling firearms

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gibo View Post
    I work a bit differently, often shooting by myself so if the target is a bit bigger than the desired poi you can see the hits. Chasing your tail with unseen impacts can make your shooting worse.
    i used a steel plate 3 foot square with a 6 inch heavy plate welded in the middle to take the Big hits and sprayed it after each session . . if i miss i want to know by how much
    without a picture . .. it never happened !

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    I'd recommend going for a bigger target, you can always add a smaller aiming point but there is nothing more frustrating than not being able to see where your misses have gone.

    Alternatively you could add a bigger target behind the 4x4 target either way, bigger is better IMO.

    4x4 targets should be easy to hit out to 200m (with centrefire) from prone but any further than that you'd be surprised how quickly a 4x4 target becomes very very small.
    4x4 target would be a little small for a 22 unless you stay under 100m
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rushy View Post
    Bloody Nigel no mate aye? Get a buddy to spot you man!
    Spotters get it wrong, the plate dont lie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gibo View Post
    the plate dont lie
    Ha ha ha you should tell my missus that. Every night I look at my empty plate and tell her she needs to put more food on it.
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    It takes 43 muscle's to frown and 17 to smile, but only 3 for proper trigger pull.
    What more do we need? If we are above ground and breathing the rest is up to us!
    Rule 1: Treat every firearm as loaded
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    Rule 3: Load a firearm only when ready to fire
    Rule 4: Identify your target beyond all doubt
    Rule 5: Check your firing zone
    Rule 6: Store firearms and ammunition safely
    Rule 7: Avoid alcohol and drugs when handling firearms

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    Ive said for years a 3ltr plastic milk bottle is just about perfect size to represent hilar area/killzone of most of our big game animals...whatever range you can consitantly hit one...you can cleanly kill an animal.... its the first round that counts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gibo View Post
    I work a bit differently, often shooting by myself so if the target is a bit bigger than the desired poi you can see the hits. Chasing your tail with unseen impacts can make your shooting worse.
    Yup, this is mine,

    1m x 1m Hardox.

    Dots are 50mm. Corner ones are 250 mm in from each edge and centre is obviously 500mm in.

    I haven’t got a chrony, so after im zeroed, I can verify velocity from drop, aiming at a top dot at 565 yds and changing the velocity in my phone to get my dope.

    5 dots gives me plenty of shooting before a respray.

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    Also have a 250mm square at 400 yds with a 30mm dot for the dinner plate challenge.

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    I use these large splatter targets out to 400. Holes can be patched so target can be reused many times. The holes can be seen with good scope or spotting scope and the rings give good indications of wind effects or nescessary corrections.
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    Some military and I think NZDA use the following guidelines.
    All at 100 yards.
    2 MOA prone
    3 MOA sitting or kneeling supported
    5 MOA sitting unsupported
    7 MOA offhand eg. something like a milk bottle top at 25 yds.
    Gives a realistic target to aim for as a starting point. Over the years you’d be surprised how many people I’ve seen can’t achieve this.
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