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Thread: Terminator muzzle brakes VS suppressors

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    Terminator muzzle brakes VS suppressors

    Here is a comparison I did today using the 22 Terminator & two of my brakes & two suppressors.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32yEcdeO8Nw

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    Nice demonstration Greg .
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    Quote Originally Posted by veitnamcam View Post
    Nice demonstration Greg .
    Thanks, looking forward to doing one with a bigger calibre so the slide really moves

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    Very interesting
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg View Post
    Here is a comparison I did today using the 22 Terminator & two of my brakes & two suppressors.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32yEcdeO8Nw
    I bet if you added the weight of the suppressors to the rifle for the un braked / un suppressed test, the movement would be the same. So it is just perceived recoil reduction suppressors users are getting (Due to the noise reduction)

    From now on I am going to refer to suppressors as - PLACEBO

    Placebo effect: Also called the placebo response. A remarkable phenomenon in which a placebo -- a fake treatment, an inactive substance like sugar, distilled water, or saline solution -- can sometimes improve a patient's condition simply because the person has the expectation that it will be helpful.


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    No, it would have less effect than a suppressor, remember there are lots of gasses flying out of the muzzle, effectively making it a rocket engine, thrusting it back into you. A suppressor catches these, as the create a lot of the bang, in its baffles and releases them slowly. So there is more felt recoil reduction than just weight and perception.
    A brake is more effective as it reverses the direction of these gasses and uses them to pull the rifle forward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spudattack View Post
    No, it would have less effect than a suppressor, remember there are lots of gasses flying out of the muzzle, effectively making it a rocket engine, thrusting it back into you. A suppressor catches these, as the create a lot of the bang, in its baffles and releases them slowly. So there is more felt recoil reduction than just weight and perception.
    A brake is more effective as it reverses the direction of these gasses and uses them to pull the rifle forward.
    @Kiwi Greg can you do another video with the placebo weight added to the rifle?

    @Spudattack the rifle weight also reduces felt recoil. So a ???g can will reduce recoil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spudattack View Post
    No, it would have less effect than a suppressor, remember there are lots of gasses flying out of the muzzle, effectively making it a rocket engine, thrusting it back into you. A suppressor catches these, as the create a lot of the bang, in its baffles and releases them slowly. So there is more felt recoil reduction than just weight and perception.
    Yep but only a very small amount.

    This video from ages ago done before I got a video camera was a big eye opener to both myself & a mate there at the time.

    I did it several times before I videoed it with my camera, we couldn't believe what was happening.



    I have done similar things many times since then & all show about the same about of recoil reduction from a suppressor.

    Certainly no where near the amount of recoil reduction anecdotal comments suggest.

    Here is a quick video I did yesterday with the ASE & DPT suppressors on the 280 & 30-06 imp max.



    The little rifles are nicer to use with a suppressor than brake as the recoil is still manageable.

    Spotting you own shots in the field would still be difficult without a great position.

    I'm still surprised by the number of T1 & T2 brakes than end up on .223-308 calibres

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg View Post
    Yep but only a very small amount.

    This video from ages ago done before I got a video camera was a big eye opener to both myself & a mate there at the time.

    I did it several times before I videoed it with my camera, we couldn't believe what was happening.



    I have done similar things many times since then & all show about the same about of recoil reduction from a suppressor.

    Certainly no where near the amount of recoil reduction anecdotal comments suggest.

    Here is a quick video I did yesterday with the ASE & DPT suppressors on the 280 & 30-06 imp max.



    The little rifles are nicer to use with a suppressor than brake as the recoil is still manageable.

    Spotting you own shots in the field would still be difficult without a great position.

    I'm still surprised by the number of T1 & T2 brakes than end up on .223-308 calibres
    Thanks for posting that video Greg.

    So about a 13% recoil reduction with a Suppressor then? and about 70% with your T2 brake? (as per your first post)
    It's a bit hard to get a true result from the Kimber 308 video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kokako View Post
    Thanks for posting that video Greg.

    So about a 10% recoil reduction with a Suppressor then? and about 70% with your T2 brake? (as per your first post)
    If you had to use percentages (which I don't like, to easy to manipulate) then yep about that.

    Give or take 5%

 

 

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