22 quick release mounts on a custom high power rifle quarter rib

I am just planning part of a vintage rifle restoration and need some advice from you guys who are up to speed on quick release rimfire mounts / rings

Standard high powered rifle 1" mounts are usually the weaver base style and go on a fairly wide base
I'm intending making a custom quarter rib that is about 12mm wide and would mill two sections of dovetail directly into it
To keep things trim and discrete I thought a decent quality rimfire 1" quick detach ring with the narrower base like this image would do the job
And fit on the 12mm maximum width rib
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Something like this but QR
This rifle will be a medium weight 30-30 single shot so I don't think recoil will be an issue

So what sort of rings are there out there for this sort of task and will they be up to the task ?

you could go the route folks do with bakails...fit one piece airgun mount.... the grub screw means it will always return to same position on rifle and dove tail is fixed on one side so in theory it should return to zero....4 allen screws isnt quick release as such...but a fella as talented as yourself could soon change that.

sort of like this
I want to keep it small and discrete

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Those look like Talley RF rings, the CF ones are similar but a bit more robust and sophisticated in the locking mechanism - I could send you a set if you like. Ruger rings are also quite svelte.

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Originally Posted by Micky Duck

you could go the route folks do with bakails...fit one piece airgun mount.... the grub screw means it will always return to same position on rifle and dove tail is fixed on one side so in theory it should return to zero....4 allen screws isnt quick release as such...but a fella as talented as yourself could soon change that.

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yeh nah
It's going on an 1885

fair enough......2nd thought,the earlier .22 scopes had a wrap around thin sheet metal rings and mounts all in one, the ends of sheet were turned in to grip dove tail...they were solid as heck.... havent seen one for years.from memory there were bolts going through underneath scope body that pulled inwards tightening whole thing up firmly...would look more inline with period you taking...

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Originally Posted by Tentman

Those look like Talley RF rings, the CF ones are similar but a bit more robust and sophisticated in the locking mechanism - I could send you a set if you like. Ruger rings are also quite svelte.

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I have a heap of QRs but they are all for Weaver style bases and don't want to make the quarter rib that wide because its a light profile tapered round barrel
The Quarter rib will need to be high enough for the back end to extend over the receiver ring for the rear dovetail to be far enough back for eye relief
Hence 12mm once again

but if its drool material like that one...time for me to butt out LOL.

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Originally Posted by Micky Duck

fair enough......2nd thought,the earlier .22 scopes had a wrap around thin sheet metal rings and mounts all in one, the ends of sheet were turned in to grip dove tail...they were solid as heck.... havent seen one for years.from memory there were bolts going through underneath scope body that pulled inwards tightening whole thing up firmly...would look more inline with period you taking...

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I have plenty of those old 22 rf folded ones but they are a bit like toys for this task

Just to make things even more complicated I cant solder the quarter rib on if it hangs over the receiver ring
So it will be a lot of fitting up to get it looking good

Can put screws through under the rings and express sight dovetails into the barrel

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Originally Posted by Micky Duck

but if its drool material like that one...time for me to butt out LOL.

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No it won't be pretentious like that
It is intended to be an 1885 Light Rifle
30-30 seems a useful every day carry classic

I have plenty of big classics that leave me beaten up after a range session
I just thought I would put this together as something that would be nice to own and use a lot
And nice to give someone to join me on a hunt and get a taste of the joy of using these vintage guns

I'm definitely guilty of always wanting bigger classic guns
So a modest one seems to be needed

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Originally Posted by akaroa1

sort of like this
I want to keep it small and discrete

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Trawling through Hallowellco's listings is a great way to spend an hour.

I just measured a Talley CF base - its 0.5". Cheers

Have a look at the Warne QD rings.
Their website has reasonable info on dimensions.
Rib width may still be an issue.
And availability...

old style Warne rings and bases (Premier), are (I think, but I do have a set of bases to measure) 11mm wide. These are very similar to kimber and I think also fit brno.
I could get a happy snap of the bases that I have if you like. I believe the Warne 7.3 Rimfire rings fit those bases so maybe have a look at those.
I can tell you the centerfire rings have had close to 70 rounds of 340 and 350gr pills with about a 50-50 split of 2200ish pfs and 2600 ish fps.
They definitely hold zero. haven't tried the quick detach bit to see if they keep zero though

How about some of the classic Hillver or Ausinel steel rings for a 22 dovetail. Nice and and tidy and well made. Then make a QD lever arrangement using the original dovetail clamp and screw to tighten them on to your rib. There was another Aussie manufacturer that made good old fashioned steel rings, but cant remember the name.

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old style Warne rings and bases (Premier), are (I think, but I do have a set of bases to measure) 11mm wide. These are very similar to kimber and I think also fit brno.
I could get a happy snap of the bases that I have if you like. I believe the Warne 7.3 Rimfire rings fit those bases so maybe have a look at those.
I can tell you the centerfire rings have had close to 70 rounds of 340 and 350gr pills with about a 50-50 split of 2200ish pfs and 2600 ish fps.
They definitely hold zero. haven't tried the quick detach bit to see if they keep zero though

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Originally Posted by Husky1600

How about some of the classic Hillver or Ausinel steel rings for a 22 dovetail. Nice and and tidy and well made. Then make a QD lever arrangement using the original dovetail clamp and screw to tighten them on to your rib. There was another Aussie manufacturer that made good old fashioned steel rings, but cant remember the name.

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Yes I have been looking at that option
Wouldn't work for some types because the bottom screw doubles as the scope mount clamp
The answer is out there somewhere
No use looking at offshore web sites because mostly out of stock and the issues with freight etc

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Originally Posted by Husky1600

How about some of the classic Hillver or Ausinel steel rings for a 22 dovetail. Nice and and tidy and well made. Then make a QD lever arrangement using the original dovetail clamp and screw to tighten them on to your rib. There was another Aussie manufacturer that made good old fashioned steel rings, but cant remember the name.

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Wasnt lynx?

May not be relevant to your situation but this is the solution I used to mount a Weaver 1" scope on my BRNO ZKW465. I didn't wish to remove the rear sight (and then lose it as is the norm). So to get absolute mimimum clearance between the scope objective and the rear sight I used a combination of Warne's 30mm QD rings and Brownell's delrin 30mm to 1" reducers. Other rings were either miles too high or too low. The scope has ended up at a nice shooting height but maybe just a tad further fwd than optimum. And my rear sight is safe from losing.
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May not be relevant to your situation but this is the solution I used to mount a Weaver 1" scope on my BRNO ZKW465. I didn't wish to remove the rear sight (and then lose it as is the norm). So to get absolute mimimum clearance between the scope objective and the rear sight I used a combination of Warne's 30mm QD rings and Brownell's delrin 30mm to 1" reducers. Other rings were either miles too high or too low. The scope has ended up at a nice shooting height but maybe just a tad further fwd than optimum. And my rear sight is safe from losing.
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Yes that is close
But sadly I have discovered there are several almost perfect mounts like this but they are all for 30mm scopes
That's pretty weird on a narrow rimfire base
Clearly I'm swimming in the shallow end of the pool and all the cool guys with 30mm scope are over there!

Old style warne premier bases.
Just over 36mm long, 6.5mm thick (obviously dependent on reciever heights),12.5mm wide and 11 at the dovetail.
Tried texting you but teenagers pillaged group data so it wont send for a bit.
Quite a neat small base sadly discontinued but as posted earlier similar to Kimber apparently and the rings fit brown dovetails but that's from the interweb not personal experience

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Have you tried Klaus Pommer? He has Recknagel and they do all sorts of QD. I imported EAW from Germany for a set of Suhl style twist off rings, but the catalogue is hundreds of pages long.

https://www.optics-trade.eu/nz/rusan...-4-mm-q-r.html

I found exactly what I was looking for in SLOVENIA !
And a range of mount heights

Has anyone dealt with optics-trade.eu ?

Massive range on the web site
But a long way to get a very small item freighted and lost
Even in NZ the couriers can loose huge things with ease

I brought my EAW mounts in via optics-trade.eu.
It worked for me, fairly quick and not too rapacious on the freight.

Should have made it clear that EAW are from Germany, optics-trade are in Slovenia.