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K77/44 and 357 is the only bolt rifles in pistol caliber that springs to my mind. Im sure there is others. the 44 would of been a real nice sub gun with a faster twist barrel
It looks ORSOME , you know what I mean , just allow a little room in curtain areas , so you have room to say maybe offer different cals & mags etc , so its not a total redesign , if you decide to say go 10mm & use glock mags etc , so allow a little bit of meat in most areas .
It looks like you are attaching the mag well direct to the action , this is good , as it keeps the mag catch length more exact/precise , just allow enough room for the action/stock screws not to be too close & foul the action .
Later Chris
awesome guys. thanks for all replies. i am thinking initially making 9mm round as it's the cheapest CF available, followed by 45ACP, 38 super, 40 and 10mm (and their variants) as they are rimmed and use "same" mags. rimless coming second, like 357, 44, etc... let's see how things go. probably I know the answer but would it be nicer to offer the complete rifle or let customers choose barrels, mags, stocks?
again, any info/critics will be recorded.
regards
mfg
that's another project: 9mm repeater using 1911 mags, mag holder is 3D printed and bolt similar to my other projects, a version of the Rem 40-X rimfire.
Stock to be fitted is aluminum 6061 and threaded for ar15 adjustable buffer tube and ar grip (SW image attached). i can post it as soon as I get it machined (not by me :D).
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okay - where do I line up to buy one of these?
why are single break open rifles not in more rimmed cartridges???
Im sure given modern loading practises and a faster twist barrel the old .32/20 would be a capable round
the .22hp savage is another that just screams for a comeback...with a .224 barrel in say a 8-9 twist rate it would do what the older version did with modern projectiles.
its neat to see you guys making rifles that are unique and not just plastic spastic mass produced jobs.
.45 long colt is a capable round as it is even in cowboy load levels....it also has limited options to purchase.
i really want the rifle to be like this image below, with a few more details/features, specially on the stock:
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so i could change out the front of the stock and have something like this:
https://www.ableammo.com/catalog/ima...2017/25389.jpg
what do you guys reckon? what would you guys change? please, i am still learning a lot about it and any input is appreciated
MFG
Cheek riser, higher rings, integrated suppressor and oh shit you've made a De Lisle
(That is a good thing)
Thumbscrew/s attachment for the stock, make it easy to take down.
I would look for it being a handy/small trim little rifle , would forget the target super wide forend , and ditch the AR15 bits if possible , never really understood the need to have a AR buffer tube stock on a bolt action rifle , just seems a cheap bad way of stocking a bolt gun .
A quick detach or folding stock option , and short threaded barrel for can , and a good thread size say 5/8 & not 1/2 inche .
Also would really look at Glock mags , as they are cheap & plentiful , and interchangeable with the new Ruger 9mm carbine .
Ok, so where is my 9mm rifle ? :) @xring
Pm me the $.....
I saw an interesting folding stock the other day (or at least a picture of one.) When folded the pointy end of the barrel was protected by the bottom of the butt as in the stock folded so that the barrel went into a hollow in the stock, and the trigger was covered on both sides by a piece of the forestock that slid back over it (Think like a pump action forestock but on a different action) that had to move before you could fold the stock. This protected the muzzle and stopped it from being usable when in the folded position. Very clever design but bloody dear.
+1 for Glock mag compatible
coo guys.. awesome! really good tips over here. great to read that!
i gotta give the glocks mags a study and how I can fit it in to the action (mag well).
uuhhh ar15 butts stocks.... i also have the see other option other than these.
if any of you has other ideas, please, keep shooting. i will consider every each one of them.
cheers
MFG
@xring just waiting for my leftie also.
AR stock parts are a great idea as they are plentiful and customisable etc Light also.
Having a 9mm that could be converted to 22 TCU with Glock mags would be awesome. 45 ACP would also be fantastic then 44 mag etc
I like the idea of 22 TCU as it's sort of a modern take on the 22 hornet.
Nice project. Seems wasted opportunity having a pistol mag and not having it inside the pistol grip?
I think a bolt action is worked faster with a traditional stock grip setup rather than a pistol grip, but pistol grips are...handy.
I'd definitely be keen on something like this and look at chambering into a .22TCM like Wingman has done on his thread.
Two things I could think of from your design is
1. Scope mounts, drill and tap for rings rather than how it is, possible picatinny rail system
2. Stock, it's a pistol caliber, perhaps it could fit into a 10/22 type stock, magpul etc which gives end users an array of options
Well done on pursuing this project.
hey guys, one more update. stock "almost" done. I say almost because I went on a different design, lighter and slimmer.
just missing the AR butt. barrel made by vulcan. really nice work done by john. stock will be black hard anodized.
yeah, i could put double stack glock mags in there.
also, will go with a thinner barrel and a full suppressor for weight savings.
seventenths, i am not sure going with bases or rail bcs it will add up in the end. recoil is like a 22LR. but man.. thanks for the headsup.
cheers
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oh.. one of the versions i want to come out like this kind of tactical look (maybe):
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If you are thinking of changing calibre...
You could get a 7.62x25 Tokarev chamber reamer and re-purpose a .303 barrel. Powerful, flat shooter which will go in many 9x19mm mags and requires no modifications to bolt or extractor. Cases can be made from .223 brass if a shortage hits (as can 9x19mm), and they'll go in .223 stripper clips of course.
The 7.62 Tokarev was 25% more powerful than its 7.63 Mauser parent cartridge, which already was the highest velocity handgun cartridge pre .357 Mag's appearance in the mid-1930s.
OK , its ORSOME looking , and I want one , I would like the mag well to extend more to support a Glock type mag , down to the bottom of the trigger guard if possible , I would keep the barrel profile still quite heavy ( maybe not quite as bull as in pics , but still heavy ) , as it allows the buyer to thin down to his choice in length & muzzle/thread dia etc , cant put meat back on a thin barrel/muzzle etc .
RE the 22TCU , maybe Not a good choice for a rear locking receiver ?
Again , well done , Fanastic Job
You might have seen this but this crowd make a similar rifle to what your trying to achieve but it's chambered in .22 TCM with pistol mags in either 5 or 17 shot.
https://armscor.com/firearms/rifle-series/m22-tcm-ba/
hey guys, sorry for not responding earlier. i was overseas and i just hate typing on a mobile phone.
about the glock mags, problem there is that the mag well to accept it will be increased somewhat and
not leaving a reasonable meat on the bottom the action. ruger pc has it, but they are squarish and wider.
definitely it needs a suppressor and the way the rifle is designed, i cant go shorter than 14" with the barrel. thinking also putting on
a savage type nut to for the barrel, so anyone with a little knowledge and a 32mm wrench/vise can swap barrels.
seventenths, yes, seen it. cool and really cheap. not sure how much it would reach here for tho.
i will show you guys another idea i had these days too, if there's someone interested.
cheers chrisf.
rifle is gonna be like in the render below.
cheers
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I think I want one too...
Any chance of a pic or link to that folding rifle @timattalon ? Seems like it could work nicely with xring's design or a future build.
canross, good tip, but problem I see there is that it will be shorter than 762mm when folded. I am right on the money on this dimension now. correct if I am wrong. cheers
The folding rifles are essentially based on a shot gun action. One example would be the Baikal IZH18 in various calibres, but there are much better quality versions that are similar. @xring the folders are not affected by the min length rule as the action is unable to fire in the folded position as it is open. Same as a removable barrel situation. It cannot be fired if in a "taken down" position as folding it or breaking it down / removing the barrel renders it inoperable until reassembled or closed.
Yours looks amazing and I have to say "well done".
I think the stock design is great, allows end user to fit out as they see fit. Was the stock based on the PMACA style chassis?
timattalon, good to know. i really didn't know that. i will have a look at that. thanks man!
hansy, i took the idea out of the MDT's. Didn't know PMACA and looking at their stocks, mine really looks like them.
any incoming tip is good!
cheers
It has been 4 days! Where are the updates! :pacman:
I've seen the ad....Good things take time. Its got me looking at 9mm rifles as plinkers but I am not into semi autos.
No by the example being led above I am considering making / building one with help.
I am thinking a falling block, ultra lite rifle. Maybe one that is collapsible that is inoperable once collapsed. I am thinking a stock that when folded, completely covers the firing mech and trigger so it cannot be used as a pistol. Either that or a removable barrel that fits back into the stock....
These are really, really nice rifles but the price tag is... Ouch!
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