Welcome guest, is this your first visit? Create Account now to join.
  • Login:

Welcome to the NZ Hunting and Shooting Forums.

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed.

DPT Darkness


User Tag List

+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 26
Like Tree17Likes

Thread: Eccentric over barrel rifle suppressors - anyone know?

  1. #1
    Member Cordite's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2017
    Location
    NZ Mainland (Dunedin)
    Posts
    5,478

    Eccentric over barrel rifle suppressors - anyone know?

    Just picking brains... does anyone know of a manufacturer of an eccentric, ideally over-barrel suppressors for .30 rifles such as .308 or .303?

    I know Hiram Maxim made one at the dawn of time for his machine guns, the steel spiral baffles of which were later copied in the de Lisle .45, but uncle Google does not help further ("Eccentric suppressor" search just gets you up Osprey, a manufacturer that makes eccentric pistol suppressors).

    Name:  maxim-silencer-business-end.jpg
Views: 924
Size:  15.8 KB
    An itch ... is ... a desire to scratch

  2. #2
    Full of shit Ryan_Songhurst's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Location
    South Island
    Posts
    10,207
    That Rev Rog bloke seems pretty eccentric
    270 is a harmonic divisor number[1]
    270 is the fourth number that is divisible by its average integer divisor[2]
    270 is a practical number, by the second definition
    The sum of the coprime counts for the first 29 integers is 270
    270 is a sparsely totient number, the largest integer with 72 as its totient
    Given 6 elements, there are 270 square permutations[3]
    10! has 270 divisors
    270 is the smallest positive integer that has divisors ending by digits 1, 2, …, 9.

  3. #3
    Ex stick thrower madjon_'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Richmond. Tasman.and Oz
    Posts
    3,415
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst View Post
    That Rev Rog bloke seems pretty eccentric
    I think he's dead?
    Real guns start with the number 3 or bigger and make two holes, one in and one out

  4. #4
    Member 300CALMAN's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2014
    Location
    NZISTAN
    Posts
    5,215
    Quote Originally Posted by madjon_ View Post
    I think he's dead?
    Yes RIP Roger Spackman

    Roger SPACKMAN Death Notice - Auckland, Auckland | The New Zealand Herald

  5. #5
    Member 300CALMAN's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2014
    Location
    NZISTAN
    Posts
    5,215
    Quote Originally Posted by Cordite View Post
    Just picking brains... does anyone know of a manufacturer of an eccentric, ideally over-barrel suppressors for .30 rifles such as .308 or .303?

    I know Hiram Maxim made one at the dawn of time for his machine guns, the steel spiral baffles of which were later copied in the de Lisle .45, but uncle Google does not help further ("Eccentric suppressor" search just gets you up Osprey, a manufacturer that makes eccentric pistol suppressors).
    No I have only seen the Salvo 12 for shotguns. It's more complicated to make than a round one.

  6. #6
    Member Cordite's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2017
    Location
    NZ Mainland (Dunedin)
    Posts
    5,478
    Quote Originally Posted by 300CALMAN View Post
    No I have only seen the Salvo 12 for shotguns. It's more complicated to make than a round one.
    Yes, the Maxim ones were THE shape to use back then as most people then used iron sights.

    I'm thinking of a .303 de Lisle setup myself and I prefer buying a can to attempting to make one myself - except of course you can make it quite large for a de Lisle look so it would be quite forgiving.
    An itch ... is ... a desire to scratch

  7. #7
    Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2014
    Location
    Central Otago
    Posts
    2,225
    I have made a few eccentric screw-on suppressors. They are a pain in the arse to make in comparison with concentric units, and the only major advantage they offer is the ability to use iron sights. They do give a slightly better suppression performance because of the inconsistent gas flow. The best eccentric design I have made in terms of performance and suppression is of rectangular cross-section, giving a greater internal volume than a cylindrical unit of similar dimensions.
    Cordite likes this.

  8. #8
    Member Max Headroom's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2018
    Location
    Southland
    Posts
    4,124
    Quote Originally Posted by 300CALMAN View Post
    He looks like an interesting character, what was the story with him?

  9. #9
    Member
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Far North
    Posts
    4,827
    Quote Originally Posted by Max Headroom View Post
    He looks like an interesting character, what was the story with him?
    he made suppressors that were pretty out there

  10. #10
    Ex stick thrower madjon_'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Richmond. Tasman.and Oz
    Posts
    3,415
    Quote Originally Posted by Max Headroom View Post
    He looks like an interesting character, what was the story with him?
    He liked to drill holes
    gadgetman, Tommy and rossi.45 like this.
    Real guns start with the number 3 or bigger and make two holes, one in and one out

  11. #11
    Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    N/A
    Posts
    7,631
    Quote Originally Posted by Bill999 View Post
    he made suppressors that were pretty out there
    And, in my experience at least, completely ineffective.
    svt40 likes this.

  12. #12
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2014
    Location
    Tauranga
    Posts
    2,965
    He made and sold, or at least attempted to sell some pretty over the top tacticool gun designs. Think flames and sparkly bits. Probably would have been an interesting bloke to have a beer with.

  13. #13
    Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Kingcountry
    Posts
    4,628
    Rev Rog had different ideas in designing affective suppressors, never got around to the barrel protector sleeve. No one else in the industry has matched his suppressor colour schemes. Even told me he threaded barrels with a die nut when they wouldn't fit in the lathe. A very nice guy, miss the odd chat I had with him.

  14. #14
    Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    N/A
    Posts
    7,631
    He certainly was quite an amiable man, very easy to deal with.

  15. #15
    Member Cordite's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2017
    Location
    NZ Mainland (Dunedin)
    Posts
    5,478
    Quote Originally Posted by gundoc View Post
    I have made a few eccentric screw-on suppressors. They are a pain in the arse to make in comparison with concentric units, and the only major advantage they offer is the ability to use iron sights. They do give a slightly better suppression performance because of the inconsistent gas flow. The best eccentric design I have made in terms of performance and suppression is of rectangular cross-section, giving a greater internal volume than a cylindrical unit of similar dimensions.
    I see, so blast gets channeled left an right, down, round, then towards the centre where the two opposite waves meet... equal and opposite forces cancelling each other out, turning velocity into heat. I wonder how an eccentric suppressor with no baffles would perform - just a 2" sleeve, and a long internal muzzle brake jetting left and right.

    I know, it's late and I can't sleep...
    An itch ... is ... a desire to scratch

 

 

Similar Threads

  1. Rifle barrel to australia
    By akaroa1 in forum Firearms, Optics and Accessories
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 29-12-2015, 09:32 AM
  2. over barrel suppressors
    By longrange308 in forum Firearms, Optics and Accessories
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: 06-07-2012, 11:38 PM

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Welcome to NZ Hunting and Shooting Forums! We see you're new here, or arn't logged in. Create an account, and Login for full access including our FREE BUY and SELL section Register NOW!!