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Cows die after grazing on gun club land | Otago Daily Times Online News : Otago, South Island, New Zealand & International News
Just thought you guys might be interested in this story.
Sound like bullshit IMO,
More likely nitrate poisoning and an unobservant cow cocky.
The report is very clear from "The Ministry of Primary Industries confirmed this week it was alerted by a Southland veterinary practice on July 23 of dairy cattle dying from lead poisoning on a Southland farm. The cattle had been grazing fodder beet grown on leased land owned by the Nightcaps Clay Target Club at Wreys Bush."
to ""Fonterra has undertaken blood testing of the animals as well as soil and milk testing to provide both the farmer and our cooperative with further reassurance that the risk is managed."
and finaly, "Environment Southland confirmed the lead had become embedded in the fodder beet which was ingested by the cows.
No bull shit there, at least not in the reporting.
I did read the report:)
Fonterra are never wrong my bad........
Probably bad choice of crop .Gun Club here been on same site for yonks. Beefies graze it .. But only as grass so top bites not lower ...
Gun clubs been here for years, dad shot on it when he was my age, no cows are dead there.
None of that gives any indication of what the test results showed if they were actually performed:rolleyes:
I smell a rat.
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Might of been a fucked up clay shoot:wtfsmilie::yaeh am not durnk:
Two paragraphs in that report contradict themselves. Firstly they weren't in milk. Then farmer decided to kill the remaining stock.
quotes:
"Approximately 20 affected cattle, from a mob of about 100 cows, died or were euthanised at that time, the farmer subsequently chose to humanely slaughter the remaining cattle. Some of the cattle were pregnant," MPI said in a statement issued to the Fiordland Advocate.''
(so the rest were killed?)
quote
"Cattle were removed from the affected paddocks to safe grazing and have been monitored through tests on blood and milk to confirm milk from the cows was safe."
(How can the rest be moved if the first paragraph says the remaining stock were destroyed?)
(And the above paragraph says they were testing milk)
quote
"Fonterra's general manager of milk supply, technical and assurance, Dianne Schumacher, said the herd was not milking at the time of the exposure and there was no food safety risk."
(You can't test milk if the cows aren't milking)
Something is wrong with that report......................... Oh wait, its the media:wtfsmilie:
:D:D:D
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Radio said that they had grazed Swedes previously but that the beets somehow concentrated the lead from the ground and that it was the first time that they had been fed beets
Perhaps but have you overlooked and not given an opinion upon....
......."The Ministry of Primary Industries confirmed this week it was alerted by a Southland veterinary practice on July 23 of dairy cattle dying from lead poisoning on a Southland farm."
and ...."The cattle had been grazing fodder beet grown on leased land owned by the Nightcaps Clay Target Club at Wreys Bush."
"
and.....""Environment Southland confirmed the lead had become embedded in the fodder beet. which was ingested by the cows."
Fuck Brads I just sprayed my screen with beer:D
i dont understand why he would slaughter the rest of the mob??? all the farmers i know would stay up night and day to try save 1 cow if they could.... sounds like a silly cunt to me.
#4 is gold!!!! :thumbsup:
You don't get lead poison overnight. It would take a little while to accumulate in the system of the cows I guess.
Doesn't lead sink? Just make sure you don't pour the milk bottle upside down in your cup of tee trying to get the last few drops and you should be fine :D
I do a shit load of shooting here and before I became the Boss the old man use to make me pick up the wads from the shotgun as he thought the cows might choke on the plastic and the shells that were left lying around the place.:wtfsmilie:
Damned if he could get me to pick up the lead or steel that was fired.:)
The only cows that die from lead poisoning here,only died because someone squeezed a trigger:ka boom:
I heard of the same thing happening a few years ago the shot was caught in maize behind a gun club. Cows died but it wasn't quick.
Think it was in the Manawatu
There are a vast number of variables which would affect lead uptake into crops. It's quite plausible that conditions were right in this paddock.
The bottom line is, it is ridiculous to compare what happened here to the paddocks that you shoot on which subsequently don't kill cows. Lead uptake was tested by:
a) a local vet (may have had vested interest, but unlikely)
b) Fonterra - they have absolutely no reason to falsify positive pb results in the blood of stock, and
c) Environment Southland, who also have absolutely no reason to falsify results.
d) I think the true knobs are people who insult others because they follow evidence-based reasoning rather than anecdotal "BUT ANIMALS DIDN'T DIE ON MY GUN CLUB'S LAND" reasoning. One test can be flawed. Two tests, unlikely, but possible. Three independent tests from separate organisations all confirming lb poisoning? Denying that is just silly. Incidentally, the blood test for lead is very basic, common, and accurate.
Ok, so maybe Environment Southland alone may have been suspicious - I guess they probably don't like lead entering the environment. But yeah, suggesting three independent groups all collaborated on this big conspiracy to pretend cattle died from lead poisoning? That's well and truly into the realm of tinfoil-hat crazy talk.
The end result is likely to be tougher resource consent restrictions for ranges (harder for any new ones being built ie new Ardmore Range, shotgun or not) and more restrictions in Council district plans on them too.
All towards to the goal of banning lead completely in firearm projectiles Commiefornia style.
Didn't take long for one group to leap on the bandwagon. "An animal rights group wants lead hunting ammunition to be fully banned after 20 cows developed lead poisoning at a Southland farm....."
Some loony claims in the article from this group, such as , "...."We know that in New Zealand thousands of duck shooters still use shotguns that take lead shot and we know that every time they fire on cartridge about 200 lead pellets will end up in our environment...."
LINK HERE.......
hahaha was talking to a mate farming down the road from this poor bugger. only 20 cows died he didnt shoot the others just moved them of the crop. medias full of it as usual.
This forum is better than the media at least we get some facts,way to go tirantious:thumbsup:
its all good haha i normally just prowl the boards reading but i hate when the media blows things outa proportion haha.
To be fair to the media I heard it on National Radio and they had most of it straight - 20ish cows dead, first time on beets but had previously grazed the same area ok with different crop, etc
Good to hear from a local and get the confirmation tho
I always go with the ABCs with everything I do, including reading the news.
Assume nothing
Believe nobody
Corroborate everything
They probably died of diabetes and constipation...all that sugar and fibre!!:) Sensationalistic journalism...
Maybe they were shot... And no bullets or cases found.
Perhaps this story is closer to the truth and they did die of lead poisoning.... Just delivered in a different way...
Or 1080...
Or aliens...
Or (hopefully) Zombies!!!!
(Tinfoil hat is now on)
they did die off lead poisoning but they're thinking its more to do with shot being in the bulb and them eating some of it in dirt too.