Thread: Another Aramoana???

Originally Posted by rockland

Big feature on One News tonight about the triumphant return of Olympic medalists. Clips of various sports that won medals but no mention of our shooting success in trapshooting.

Then-surprise surprise-the item about illegal firearms. To their credit David Tipple was given a chance to comment,thankfully he speaks calmly and rationally on behalf of licensed shooters.

At the risk of ruining a good conspiracy theory, she was on tonight's news as she only came home today, one of the last to do so.

Originally Posted by Smartie

At the risk of ruining a good conspiracy theory, she was on tonight's news as she only came home today, one of the last to do so.

Shh, stop using facts, it's spoils the bias people have

Originally Posted by keneff

Apropos of this, it seems the cops in the USA are killing a lot of people, mostly those of a darker complexion.

Cops killed nearly twice as many whites as blacks in 2015. According to data compiled by The Washington Post, 50 percent of the victims of fatal police shootings were white, while 26 percent were black. The majority of these victims had a gun or "were armed or otherwise threatening the officer with potentially lethal force," according to MacDonald in a speech at Hillsdale College.

Some may argue that these statistics are evidence of racist treatment toward blacks, since whites consist of 62 percent of the population and blacks make up 13 percent of the population. But as MacDonald writes in The Wall Street Journal, 2009 statistics from the Bureau of Justice Statistics reveal that blacks were charged with 62 percent of robberies, 57 percent of murders and 45 percent of assaults in the 75 biggest counties in the country, despite only comprising roughly 15 percent of the population in these counties.

Check your figures before making a statement such as this.

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Check what I wrote, Pal. You will see that I didn't quote ANY figures. Are you saying the cops need to shoot more blacks to bring some balance to the issue? Certainly the shooting of blacks gets much more media attention. Anti-white racism is rife in the US AND here. You don't need to be white to be a racist, and you don't need to be black, or brown, or yellow, to be a victim of it.

How long is a piece of string? I think since firearms were invented, most countries have had a "long history" of multiple shootings.

Another "Aramoana" is inevitable, sensational headline that! even if its statistically less likely than this alternative headline Another Christchurch earthquake is inevitable.
No matter how much you plan you will not be able to prevent either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REdjjLBaiOs

Found this...

The first gun control laws were enacted in 1845, but early regulations were ineffective until the passage of the Arms Act in 1860, which required licences and registration of firearms and firearm dealers.

In 1920, the new law required the registration of all firearms and issuance of a "permit to procure" before a firearm was transferred. Semi-automatic pistols were banned and a special permit was needed for other pistols (e.g. revolvers), with the intent of discouraging the carrying of concealed weapons. Few changes were seen for the next forty years as crime remained low and the country avoided political violence.

An internal police report in 1982 criticised the proposals, saying there was no evidence that registration helped to solve crimes, and that registration would use time and money better spent on other police work. This policy was adopted by the government in the 1983 Act.

Trevor Mallard signed off the registration of firearms move...the politicians citing that the processes involved were too expensive. The irony was, in my mind, that firearms become easier to procure; go figure!!!

Didn't sound like that on the radio reports, in fact has anyone seen the PCA report?

Originally Posted by Wirehunt

Didn't sound like that on the radio reports, in fact has anyone seen the PCA report?

Yup well the radio doesn't know f^%k all, I've spoken to people who were directly involved in the incident and the subsequent investigation.

How many more Christchurch earthquakes? How many more trucks have to fall off the ferry? We need to ban firearms before the gun related crime rate gets so low it naturally rebounds a little and we have a crisis on out hands.

Greg O'Connor if you hate freedom so much you should get a plane ticked and retire in that totalitarian penal colony west of New Zealand.

I agree tussock. Guns are a red herring issue.

I think the real issue is the resurgence of the methamphetamine trade and associated burglary increase. Guns being stolen are a byproduct of this.

I disagree tussock, NZ is training a Shi'ite dominated government/army which are a lot more palatable than the Sunni, Saudi backed enemy.

Islamic militants will never get past stage 3 because they are fucking idiots. Have you not seen how they conduct themselves on the battlefield? They are as dangerous to each other as they are to one of the 50 factions they are fighting.

Originally Posted by Tussock

Look at our cops. NZ has never been richer (supposedly) and its never had more rules. You can't buy dynamite at Miter 10 anymore.

Yet supposedly the place has become so much more dangerous that we can't have guns and they desperately need them.

In other words, they want more power for failing to make the place safer.

This trend is not about to reverse.

Who has said "we can't have guns?"

The cops in Whangarei who were shot at a few days ago were reportedly unarmed and unable to stop the guy stealing their squad car.They were lucky he didn't hit and kill them.

He then hijacked another car at gunpoint and took off. I'm sure the people who were robbed of their car at gunpoint would have prefered the police were able to stop him before they were attacked.

Why shouldn't they carry guns to protect themselves and the public?

It sounds to me like the cops DO desperatly need more guns, or at least carry the ones they have.