That's one big list thought I was ok ,but got two shotguns on it.
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Yep, don't be fooled. It's all based on mag capacity commensurate to the maximum chambering length of your shotgun e.g. 2 3/4", 3" or 3 1/2" magnum.
Can get 6 shells in my Nova so it will go,but my Fabarm H 368 don't think that does.
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I have a Benelli that's on the list. It only holds 4 in the mag so it's legal but if I want to hand it in would I get paid for it? I'd only be handing it in so I could buy another shotgun as it's a 20g and I'm wanting a 12g... Seems like an easier option than trying to sell it 2nd hand...
for crying out loud you guys...did you not get the memo....a +1 is the person you are taking along to a party....DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES use this terminology in relation to firearms capacity.....got it this time???? good...let that be the last time you need telling.
magazine capacity is what it is....full plurry stop...
So a 1022 with a 15 shot mag would get paid out
For the mag, yes.
And also for those who have been hiding a 25lber behind the cowshed , hand in that,( High explosive amo), this is on the email I've been getting. A bit like those deadly dangerous .22 magnums. They are allowing $300 for mods to get your guns into speck, so go for it guys a belt fed one is not a mag. :P May have to hide the kids water pistol.
under over is straight....side by side is kinky as for the triple barrel set up.....ummm
Guys - DO NOT PANIC !!!! - Talk to someone or your local Gunsmith or Gun shop - JOIN COLFO !!! - All buy back on non MSSA style semi automatic firearms is magazine capacity excluding one in the chamber or it is a Centrefire Semi Automatic - there is still heaps more to come including a list of "authorized gunsmiths" who can modify a firearm to make it legal at the Governments cost up to $300 (like my Winchester 9422).
Like MICKY DUCK says be very careful of what you say - these were all legally owned firearms until the Government ordered their confiscation !
As I understand it there are legal challenges pending around the prices - Again JOIN COLFO ( costs just $23) DO NOT PANIC YOU HAVE UNTIL DECEMBER !!
Actually $5, but surely we can cough up the $23 in view of what we now face.............here's the link. Do it now.
https://tinyurl.com/y6l3yz8x
Ok,
My understanding is that they would more than likely use the smaller size,
eg, mossberg 500 chambers 2 3/4 and 3" shells, says on the barrel, if 3' its 5. if 2 3/4 its 7, same for .22 short and LR they would use the short round. more than happy to be proved wrong as the 500 is in the buy back list
Ok,
My understanding is that they would more than likely use the smaller size,
eg, mossberg 500 chambers 2 3/4 and 3" shells, says on the barrel, if 3' its 5. if 2 3/4 its 7, same for .22 short and LR they would use the short round. more than happy to be proved wrong as the 500 is in the buy back list
Curiously, i had the same suspicions about my Mossberg Shotgun so I put this same point to Wilson's Hunting and Outdoors in Wanganui yesterday and their view is it is the higher size. 3 inchIf you think about it, it's OK to get five cartridges in and it is what's stamped into the barrel, so if you can get 5 x three inch in you're OK
And of course remembering that three inch cartridges are actually 2 1/2 until fired........;)
@DUCKHUNTER - I think you may have confused panic with serious annoyance.
My guns are in the safe, unused. I am not modifying them yet, too early. I'm not handing them in, till Day Zero.
But I have a serious case of annoyance are about (a) being classified a criminal even more than for the (b) State-Enforced theft of my legally-purchased and -owned products for abjectly pathetic compensation, plus (c) the contempt Stalin's daughter demonstrated for the Parliamentary Select Committee process and opportunity for public comment. In order not to upset the Nevilles and Savage1s on the forum I won't comment about (d) the Cahill-Bush Axis of Unelected Arrogance.
I joined COLFO 2 years ago, not because I saw this coming, but because of their reputation for rational commentary. I have read nothing about them that changes my mind, indeed I think they are our best public leadership on the topic, and I have further donated their way, the equivalent of what I would have shot from the centerfire carbine.
The opera ain't over yet just because we heard the scrawny lady screech...
(I know, but I can't do equina-face Photochop).
Here's a point to consider. Seems there is little news in the media about how unhappy many firearm owners are about the changes proposed. How about turning the buy back gatherings into big protest marches at each venue. Everyone affected by the changes can still hand in their firearms to a police station at a later date. Lets not give the media a big story to feed to the naive city dwellers about all these evil guns.
Heard an interesting exchange of views - or a few minutes of it - on ZB while driving round on Saturday avo running some errands. Came on after the Devlin sports bit. They got onto the MSSA buy back subject.
Three people host Tim Roxborogh, Tim Wilson + Hayley Halt. Tim Wilson has been on to this govt scam and persecution/vilification of law abiding citizens from the get go. He also gave it to National = both barrels. And stated that this action would do NOTHING to prevent such a terrorist attack in the future. Good on him - one of the very few jouno's calling it for what it is. He re-stated this very clearly and went on to say that if the "buy back" prices were not fair and reasonable then compliance would suffer, and why should law abiding people not get fully compensated for their loss. The other Tim also spoke in support of FAL community, and seemed to acknowledge the impacts/loss. Surprisingly (to me) Hayley also seemed to have a sympathetic ear ... or initially. But as the discussion among the three continued around if the payments are not fair, ..... and people feel aggrieved ..... & dont comply with the buy back ..... you could see the penny drop for Hayley. "So now we've got seriously pissed off people who have MSSA's ....... oh shit, now what ?!"
To the credit of all us "fit & proper" citizens there has been no crazy talk, just sensible & clever ideas around how to deal with authorities & the new laws. And not make it easy for the govt confiscation. Quite understandable as there has been ZERO respect demonstrated for us and our rights.
Would be valuable if that ZB 3 way discussion got more air time on MSM.
yup what he said.
There are 8 shot mossbergs and the other ones that only take 5 in the mag. @Micky Duck see what I did there?
As mentioned above somewhere the shells are measured at the fired length, I have some 2 3/4 slugs and 000 that have the same un fired length as a standard 3" shell
there is number 7 buck....closer to .22 calibre and 27??? pellets per load Vs 00 buck normally 9x.32 calibre there is also another load with normally 12x.30cal balls not sure if thats 000 or not???.
you will find the loads that are close to 3" unfired are roll crimped so they dont have stickyout bit when fired to jam charge in forcing cone.rio make a steel shot load the same.
SKS - Under ALL - run your eye down -
well seeing as your all now criminals id imaging none of you would have to worry about firearms legislation as the gangs are criminals and have clearly stated they need their guns for protection from others and criminals get off lightly while victims get hard done by, so are you all just another voiceless victim or a criminal?
Or are you going to be herd by going on social media and making a storm?
No Yugo AK Either....
Being that It was imported in the last 18 months, you would think these guys had a fucking clue of what was coming on and going out.
+1
Quote:joined COLFO 2 years ago, not because I saw this coming, but because of their reputation for rational commentary. I have read nothing about them that changes my mind, indeed I think they are our best public leadership on the topic, and I have further donated their way, the equivalent of what I would have shot from the centerfire carbine.