Thread: Cost of firearms deaths

On arvo shift so watching about the only thing that classes for news on the Breakfast show. Yeah I know anyway....
One of the news items was someone who they interviewed from otago uni regarding costs of firearms deaths and hospitalization over the last 20 years.
Hospital care was about 1 million a year which they all tut tutted about.
All expressed.concern about how firearms shouldn't be easier to get.
Didn't expand on how to manage the suicides though which is a pity as from.memory these were always the most firearms deaths a year. Way more than actual hunting accidents.
Also had a dollar figure for lost life which they found from the ltnz over road deaths.
There was a statistic which I typically think I've got mixed up. They only mentioned it once, concerning the deaths and suicides.
They mentioned maori and Pacifica for one batch and middle aged European men.think the suicides were the Europeans?
Anyone see it?

Stopped reading at otago uni.

at the end of the day if you are going to suicide you will find a way. sad but true

Suicides are the terrible part and always used by antis as justification for strict firearms controls.
From memory it's always something like 50 deaths a year and over 40 of them are Suicides. It skews the figures a bit

women will normally end it with pills etc, explains why male firearms suicides run higher

Was this funded by "whom"? Does the "whom" fund great reports of the economic, health, environmental and social benifits of hunting and shooting sports? ?????

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/...to-321m-a-year

Doesn't look very obnoxious to me.
Read it. Digest it. Then critique it.

"The more things that you can do to create steps in between that moment of impulsive thought and the point at which they're actually able to carry that out, the more chance you have that they'll think better of it and not go ahead with it," Telfar-Barnard said.

Originally Posted by Tahr

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/...to-321m-a-year

Doesn't look very obnoxious to me.
Read it. Digest it. Then critique it.

"The more things that you can do to create steps in between that moment of impulsive thought and the point at which they're actually able to carry that out, the more chance you have that they'll think better of it and not go ahead with it," Telfar-Barnard said.

And this is why I'm not a Chippy any more, the thought of how dangerous a Hammer is' makes me feel SICK.
Screwing statistics and fake infomation, Hey welcome to 2025

Originally Posted by Tahr

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/...to-321m-a-year

Doesn't look very obnoxious to me.
Read it. Digest it. Then critique it.

"The more things that you can do to create steps in between that moment of impulsive thought and the point at which they're actually able to carry that out, the more chance you have that they'll think better of it and not go ahead with it," Telfar-Barnard said.

It looks very obnoxious to me.

Headline: "Otago University study finds firearms deaths cost NZ up to $321m a year"

Actual data: "It showed the total cost of hospital care during the 19-year period was $28.2m"

Bullshit made up stuff: "but estimations - using the 'Years of Life Lost' measure - showed the costs of the deaths went far beyond the injury costs, reaching up to $321m per year."

So the headline should read "Otago University study finds firearms deaths cost NZ up to $1.4m a year" . They have exaggerated the actual number by 216%.

Two of the authors of the report have made previous political commentary on firearms in NZ, including support for Aderns actions. So it's likely they are affiliated with Gun Control NZ.

Originally Posted by vulcannz

It looks very obnoxious to me.

Headline: "Otago University study finds firearms deaths cost NZ up to $321m a year"

Actual data: "It showed the total cost of hospital care during the 19-year period was $28.2m"

Bullshit made up stuff: "but estimations - using the 'Years of Life Lost' measure - showed the costs of the deaths went far beyond the injury costs, reaching up to $321m per year."

So the headline should read "Otago University study finds firearms deaths cost NZ up to $1.4m a year" . They have exaggerated the actual number by 216%.

Two of the authors of the report have made previous political commentary on firearms in NZ, including support for Aderns actions. So it's likely they are affiliated with Gun Control NZ.

It gets worse for you. They are currently working on a book on NZ gun culture.

Originally Posted by Tahr

It gets worse for you. They are currently working on a book on NZ gun culture.

if i was you id be worried to. you ARE a LFAO aren't you..?

Originally Posted by tiroahunta

if i was you id be worried to. you ARE a LFAO aren't you..?

Doesn't worry me. In fact Im curious to the point of having asked to be interviewed. Who knows, they might be open to a little influence.

They certainly aren't going to read this thread and say "by cripes, they make a valid point there".

The fact that this survey failed to differentiate between lawful and unlawful causes of harm shows that it is biased and can be disregarded without further engagement

After finding that costs go up from illegal firearm possession then the recommendation is more laws?

Bolt that barn door nice and tight cos the horse has just fucked off over the horizon

Originally Posted by Tahr

It gets worse for you. They are currently working on a book on NZ gun culture.

Quite likely some of our chats on here will make an appearance.

Originally Posted by Bol Tackshin

Quite likely some of our chats on here will make an appearance.

Won't be the first time
Unfortunately it still won't make some think before they type...

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