Thread: Could we do more

Honestly, if you don't have the serial numbers written down it's not a big issue.
Even if the police do find your gun 6 months later, it's unlikely to be in the state it was before if it's even in a legal state at all.
By then you would have been paid out by your insurance company and the police will just go ahead and destroy it, where's the real harm to the community?
There is none, only thing you could argue is that there's parts on there you or someone else could still use.

Originally Posted by Jexla

Honestly, if you don't have the serial numbers written down it's not a big issue.
Even if the police do find your gun 6 months later, it's unlikely to be in the state it was before if it's even in a legal state at all.
By then you would have been paid out by your insurance company and the police will just go ahead and destroy it, where's the real harm to the community?
There is none, only thing you could argue is that there's parts on there you or someone else could still use.

But it can provide solid evidence that the gun found is a stolen gun, not just one the same model as a stolen one. Which obviously helps the police with the whole resolving burglaries and prosecuting offenders thing we all say they haven't been doing very well (well most of us say that , maybe not Savage1).

Originally Posted by GravelBen

But it can provide solid evidence that the gun found is a stolen gun, not just one the same model as a stolen one. Which obviously helps the police with the whole resolving burglaries and prosecuting offenders thing we all say they haven't been doing very well (well most of us say that , maybe not Savage1).

Nope I agree with you, we haven't been doing well at it. Burglaries are notoriously hard to solve because a few basic steps means they leave no evidence, and without evidence you're never going to solve it. Police just don't have the resources to really hammer burglaries sadly.

I highly recommend you record all of your serial numbers from laptops, TVs etc. If it can't be identified as stolen then it has to be given back to them even if it is obvious it would've been stolen, like a gangmembers property I raided recently that had 7 55+inch TVs and at least 50 powertools and 15 toolchests full of tools. Only a fraction of the tools were identified as stolen, he got to keep the rest.

Originally Posted by Savage1

Nope I agree with you, we haven't been doing well at it. Burglaries are notoriously hard to solve because a few basic steps means they leave no evidence, and without evidence you're never going to solve it. Police just don't have the resources to really hammer burglaries sadly.

I highly recommend you record all of your serial numbers from laptops, TVs etc. If it can't be identified as stolen then it has to be given back to them even if it is obvious it would've been stolen, like a gangmembers property I raided recently that had 7 55+inch TVs and at least 50 powertools and 15 toolchests full of tools. Only a fraction of the tools were identified as stolen, he got to keep the rest.

That's really weird, I always see my local police posting pictures of what they believe are stolen items asking for the owners to come forward?
Or does that just mean they've taken the items and asked then have to give them back if they're not claimed?
If not, what's the difference?

Originally Posted by GravelBen

But it can provide solid evidence that the gun found is a stolen gun, not just one the same model as a stolen one. Which obviously helps the police with the whole resolving burglaries and prosecuting offenders thing we all say they haven't been doing very well (well most of us say that , maybe not Savage1).

If someone doesn't have a licence which I doubt they do if they're stealing guns they're going to be charged with that regardless, maybe if that actually meant they didn't get a smack on the hand it wouldn't matter if you gave your serial numbers to police or not.

EDIT: But I understand what you're both saying, so in a way it's helpful, but honestly makes fuck all difference after sentencing.

I'm looking at it like this. They want to know how criminals get guns -> they get told the majority or procured through theft -> few stolen guns are ever recovered-> lets register guns so we know where they are -> registered guns get stolen and not recovered -> where are criminals getting guns? -> on and on