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    Interesting point ebf.

    Yet we discuss issues like this on NON hunting forum with several million people (not fb) and can get an actual interesting dialogue going with several points of view. Same goes for the 3D printing thread, but then the people I speak with there aren't as close minded and are a little (lot) more tech minded, as some are around here. Go figure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wirehunt View Post
    Interesting point ebf.

    Yet we discuss issues like this on NON hunting forum with several million people (not fb) and can get an actual interesting dialogue going with several points of view. Same goes for the 3D printing thread, but then the people I speak with there aren't as close minded and are a little (lot) more tech minded, as some are around here. Go figure.
    This clipping is just a bad joke of a strawman argument though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gimp View Post
    This clipping is just a bad joke of a strawman argument though.
    To be fair, it is pitched at roughly the same level of sophistication as the opposing view though....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wirehunt View Post
    Yet we discuss issues like this on NON hunting forum with several million people (not fb) and can get an actual interesting dialogue going with several points of view.
    Pls point me at this forum with several million users where the actual interesting dialogue is going on
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    Quote Originally Posted by ebf View Post
    Pls point me at this forum with several million users where the actual interesting dialogue is going on
    https://plus.google.com/ Something like 200 million+

    I come here for a redneck fix.

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    Do anti gun people really think crime would even romotely decrease if all guns everywhere were banned? people have been killing each other for hundreds of thousands of years and I'm sure if you go through time they take up a very small percentage of human on human fatalities.

    People will kill people whether they're using a semi auto 223, a tea spoon, a sharpened tooth brush or just their bare hands nothing can change that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bavarian_Hunter View Post
    Do anti gun people really think crime would even romotely decrease if all guns everywhere were banned? people have been killing each other for hundreds of thousands of years and I'm sure if you go through time they take up a very small percentage of human on human fatalities.

    People will kill people whether they're using a semi auto 223, a tea spoon, a sharpened tooth brush or just their bare hands nothing can change that.
    You don't need to convince us

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bavarian_Hunter View Post
    Do anti gun people really think crime would even romotely decrease if all guns everywhere were banned? people have been killing each other for hundreds of thousands of years and I'm sure if you go through time they take up a very small percentage of human on human fatalities.

    People will kill people whether they're using a semi auto 223, a tea spoon, a sharpened tooth brush or just their bare hands nothing can change that.
    Preaching to the converted BH

    The argument is way too one dimensional though...

    On the flip side you can't argue that a semi auto rifle is not a more effective weapon than a baseball bat. Some of the gun nut fraternity love hauling out the tired old argument that vehicles kill more people envy year. Same argument applies, it is the nut behind the steering wheel.

    And last time I checked, soldiers all over the were still being issued with semi auto rifles with high cap mags (not baseball bats or vw beetles), quite simply because it is the most effective individual weapon system the human race has come up with so far... Which would you rather face, a nutcase armed with a flintlock or a nutcase armed with an AR and a couple of high cap mags ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ebf View Post
    a baseball bat. ?
    Not being in that mind set but I guess I'd assume that some ppl would enjoy using the baseball bat far more...due to feel and uh prolonged sound effects. So I dont know which one I'd fear more but at least with a gun it should be pretty quick.

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    "Do anti gun people really think crime would even romotely decrease if all guns everywhere were banned?" Yes I think they do, but really you are talking of lilly liberals, even jumping out of planes for sport or fun should also be banned....or anything remotely FUN.

    Their mind set is quite simple IMHO, they think of themselves as superior and of good taste and therefore deserve to be in charge looking after the rest of us for our own good as we are really naughty children who'd get into trouble or injury ourselves. The fact the rest of us would be so bored with a life in cotton wool that we'd queue to jump under the nearest train is neither here nor there. We'd have to be quick as trains would get banned of course.

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    For my two cents worth (bloody inflation it used to be a penny's worth back in the day) the title of this thread is an absolute truth.
    It takes 43 muscle's to frown and 17 to smile, but only 3 for proper trigger pull.
    What more do we need? If we are above ground and breathing the rest is up to us!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rushy View Post
    For my two cents worth (bloody inflation it used to be a penny's worth back in the day) the title of this thread is an absolute truth.
    Let's discus this topic at a bar around the weeknd of the sika show rushy be far interesting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neckshot View Post
    Let's discus this topic at a bar around the weeknd of the sika show rushy be far interesting
    I am absolutely looking forward to that Neckshot, even if it is a long way off yet.
    It takes 43 muscle's to frown and 17 to smile, but only 3 for proper trigger pull.
    What more do we need? If we are above ground and breathing the rest is up to us!
    Rule 1: Treat every firearm as loaded
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    Rule 3: Load a firearm only when ready to fire
    Rule 4: Identify your target beyond all doubt
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    Rule 7: Avoid alcohol and drugs when handling firearms

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    It's the nut behind the butt.
    I leave my firearms in a steel box. A form of solitary confinement in the hope that when they come out, they will kill the first deer they see

    Rushy - how was your Kaimais hunt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sako75 View Post
    Rushy - how was your Kaimais hunt?
    It was Minginui but to answer it was an absolute fucking fizzer as they were not roaring. I will be going back down two weekends from now.
    It takes 43 muscle's to frown and 17 to smile, but only 3 for proper trigger pull.
    What more do we need? If we are above ground and breathing the rest is up to us!
    Rule 1: Treat every firearm as loaded
    Rule 2: Always point firearms in a safe direction
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    Rule 4: Identify your target beyond all doubt
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    Rule 6: Store firearms and ammunition safely
    Rule 7: Avoid alcohol and drugs when handling firearms

 

 

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