Thread: Guns don't kill people

Base ball bat could probably be just as lethal if you are on the receiving end of it and have nothing to defend yourself with

technically it is the impact of the bullet that does the killing, not the gun.

Originally Posted by Beavis

Base ball bat could probably be just as lethal if you are on the receiving end of it and have nothing to defend yourself with

Yup, you're absolutely correct. As could a screwdriver, brick, spade, and just about anything else...

But that is not really the point is it ?

Originally Posted by ebf

Yup, you're absolutely correct. As could a screwdriver, brick, spade, and just about anything else...

But that is not really the point is it ?

I'm lost, I don't even know what the point is.

Guns don't kill people, bullets do.

Bullets don't kill people, the injuries they cause do.

I like the quote out of 'Collateral'. "you killed him", "No, I shot him, bullets and the fall killed him."

Originally Posted by Savage1

I like the quote out of 'Collateral'. "you killed him", "No, I shot him, bullets and the fall killed him."

haha

Originally Posted by Beavis

Base ball bat could probably be just as lethal if you are on the receiving end of it and have nothing to defend yourself with

Baseball bat doesn't have a effective range of 200m.

Originally Posted by Savage1

Baseball bat doesn't have a effective range of 200m.

I wouldn't have thought

Originally Posted by Savage1

Baseball bat doesn't have a effective range of 200m.

I've also got a decent chance of out running you with a bat, I sure can't run faster than the bullet.

About as relevant as any other dribble on this thread, just more classic

Bob Dylan - Who killed Davey Moore? - YouTube

Originally Posted by Barefoot

About as relevant as any other dribble on this thread, just more classic

Bob Dylan - Who killed Davey Moore? - YouTube

Good call, this is an American issue. I'm young and dumb but is sure as shit know guns do kill people. There are a thousand different arguments around this whole topic but here's mine. In the Army, I was taught guns kill, that's what we carry them for, that what they were designed for. Not self defense, not for sport, or to make you feel safe. We have guns to seek out and close with the enemy, to kill or capture him. There is no blurred line it is firearms that kill but that is completely besides the point.

I know that it's the person that pulls the trigger, but using that to rebut attacks from people asking the wrong questions is folly. The question that really needs to be addressed is why. Why is there the disregard for life, this self entitlement to feel safe by introducing intimidation and fear. The mindset of the gun user is the issue, watch this, Man pulls gun in road rage incident. ORGINAL - YouTube. This clip infuriates me, it had all been said and done, what was the need or the logic behind of handing him the gun in the first place, what was she hoping to achieve? It's no better than a kid throwing a tantrum.

I can ramble on for a long while and work myself up but what's the point, what's the point in all of this. I live in New Zealand, I'm not even sure that my house has a key to the front door. My car is parked in driveway, keys in the ignition. Never once have I felt unsafe or uneasy about anything really let alone firearms, nor do I know anyone that actually thinks it's an issue here. We're not in a place where this kind of talk is even remotely relevant as Barefoot said before. There is no sense getting riled up.

Enjoy where we are, what we have, who's here with us, we are very lucky to have it so sweet.

Originally Posted by Eion

Good call, this is an American issue. I'm young and dumb but is sure as shit know guns do kill people. There are a thousand different arguments around this whole topic but here's mine. In the Army, I was taught guns kill, that's what we carry them for, that what they were designed for. Not self defense, not for sport, or to make you feel safe. We have guns to seek out and close with the enemy, to kill or capture him. There is no blurred line it is firearms that kill but that is completely besides the point.

I know that it's the person that pulls the trigger, but using that to rebut attacks from people asking the wrong questions is folly. The question that really needs to be addressed is why. Why is there the disregard for life, this self entitlement to feel safe by introducing intimidation and fear. The mindset of the gun user is the issue, watch this, Man pulls gun in road rage incident. ORGINAL - YouTube. This clip infuriates me, it had all been said and done, what was the need or the logic behind of handing him the gun in the first place, what was she hoping to achieve? It's no better than a kid throwing a tantrum.

I can ramble on for a long while and work myself up but what's the point, what's the point in all of this. I live in New Zealand, I'm not even sure that my house has a key to the front door. My car is parked in driveway, keys in the ignition. Never once have I felt unsafe or uneasy about anything really let alone firearms, nor do I know anyone that actually thinks it's an issue here. We're not in a place where this kind of talk is even remotely relevant as Barefoot said before. There is no sense getting riled up.

Enjoy where we are, what we have, who's here with us, we are very lucky to have it so sweet.

"to kill or capture them" As a grunt your tought how to kill the enemy using a rifle!.But how can there even be an argument over it, what about landmines???its endless isnt it. How about holden shit all over ford's

Originally Posted by Eion

I can ramble on for a long while and work myself up but what's the point, what's the point in all of this. I live in New Zealand, I'm not even sure that my house has a key to the front door. My car is parked in driveway, keys in the ignition. Never once have I felt unsafe or uneasy about anything really

Go live in chch for a while, although it has changed a bit since it got a shakeup call. I felt safer wandering around Sydney/Perth at all hours than walking around there.

Originally Posted by Wirehunt

Go live in chch for a while, although it has changed a bit since it got a shakeup call. I felt safer wandering around Sydney/Perth at all hours than walking around there.

hummmmmmmm?????..........interesting

I don't think its shit stirring ,thought provoking yes .Makes some people uncomfortable ,well possibly.

Had the gumption to post it in the first place ,well yes & I want to see more.