Thread: New Updated Arms Code 2017

Question - Where in the law does it say you have to open your safe for the police to inspect your firearms? in relations to justifying your firearms

To give you some background - A friend of mine was asked last year when renewing his licence if he would open his safe, he asked why? they said to inspect his firearms for illegal guns "e-cats" and their serial numbers, he politely told them no as this was not the law or a requirement to procure a firearms licence, you can see that my security is of a high standard (has a rather large and heavy safe) and that it hasn't changed in the last 10 years and to get a warrant if they want to see whats inside. Of course they disputed this and tried to "politely convince him" stating this would have a bearing on whether they renew his licence and that he would have "a flag against his name". He stated that again this was not a requirement to get or renew a licence, they left and he got his licence a month later.

I think Post 61 by Carpe Diem sums the likely reasoning up fairly well

Another ballsup by police

i think that it is often a help to them that so many criminals are so thick

Originally Posted by Skitsokiwi

Question - Where in the law does it say you have to open your safe for the police to inspect your firearms? in relations to justifying your firearms

To give you some background - A friend of mine was asked last year when renewing his licence if he would open his safe, he asked why? they said to inspect his firearms for illegal guns "e-cats" and their serial numbers, he politely told them no as this was not the law or a requirement to procure a firearms licence, you can see that my security is of a high standard (has a rather large and heavy safe) and that it hasn't changed in the last 10 years and to get a warrant if they want to see whats inside. Of course they disputed this and tried to "politely convince him" stating this would have a bearing on whether they renew his licence and that he would have "a flag against his name". He stated that again this was not a requirement to get or renew a licence, they left and he got his licence a month later.

exactly what happened to me

Originally Posted by gonetropo

exactly what happened to me

I too had a similar experience last renewal too. It was infered that my renewal might be held up if I didn't comply. I politely declined and license arrived

I think that when Nicolas Taylor is going to ask those questions to court in June he should be mentioning that part as well.
Because that will re enforce his argument that police are taking actions outside of what the law authorise them to do.

Tested, water cold, wrong version? To be withdrawn? Or am I wrong?

Anyone read the acknowledgements? I especially like the part "Police appreciate your interest and dedication to arms control"

It looks to me like they expected the law & order recommendations to go thru & they will be allowed to make it up as they please. What I'd like to know is what are the likes of Guncity, H&F, etc doing to keep our firearms rights as they stand to lose a lot if the police get there way?

Someone asked H&F and their position was neither here nor there. Looks like they don't want to get involved. I choose to do business with politically active dealers.

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Originally Posted by stretch

Someone asked H&F and their position was neither here nor there. Looks like they don't want to get involved. I choose to do business with politically active dealers.

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Views and opinions are like arse holes, everyone has one and they are not always the same. Can't believe you have decided to do your shopping based on the business that has the most political view point. And really but then again you have an arse hole just like me

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Originally Posted by HNTMAD

Views and opinions are like arse holes, everyone has one and they are not always the same. Can't believe you have decided to do your shopping based on the business that has the most political view point. And really but then again you have an arse hole just like me

I didn't say I deal with the business that has the most political view point. I said I deal with politically active dealers. I should've been more precise in my wording and said "I do business with dealers whose politics align with mine".

Is it is their business that's going to be adversely affected if the continued pernicious law change proposals are going to be passed. If they are being vocal and challenging these unlawful proposals and in turn helping look after my rights / privileges / whatever you believe them to be, then they will most certainly continue to receive my custom.

Police back tracking today

Police admit distributing incorrect information on firearms rules | Stuff.co.nz

Originally Posted by outdoorlad

Police back tracking today

Police admit distributing incorrect information on firearms rules | Stuff.co.nz

Oooh, comments are open on that stuff article. Have at it!

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Originally Posted by stretch

Oooh, comments are open on that stuff article. Have at it!

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moderation must be buisy