Thread: Police association reaction to submissions

The premise is flawed to begin with as almost all LFAO are taxpayers and have contributed many times more in tax over the 10 year period than the alleged deficit in license costs.

Cahill saying that the taxpayers cover most of the bill is just disgusting to read.

Originally Posted by Preacher

Cahill saying that the taxpayers cover most of the bill is just disgusting to read.

That's rich coming from one whose whole existence relies on sucking from the public tit! He is an evil little parasite!

But its ok to spend 1.66 million a year keeping Brenton Tarrent locked up

This whole thing is

A: A cash grab, more or less another layer of taxation

B: An attempt to choke out firearms ownership and activities through cost and regulation.

From Police copied verbatim:

“Fees are not intended to be direct contributors to public safety in themselves but they may reduce the demand for and use of firearms.”

Originally Posted by Beavis

This whole thing is

A: A cash grab, more or less another layer of taxation

B: An attempt to choke out firearms ownership and activities through cost and regulation.

From Police copied verbatim:

“Fees are not intended to be direct contributors to public safety in themselves but they may reduce the demand for and use of firearms.”

perhaps a rooting tax will reduce the amount of DPB dependancy too????

perhaps a fast food tax will reduce folks getting fat??????

when the ques for McDonalds first day out of lockdown are looked at..we arent going to make it as a species..more tax will fix that.

If we pay, can we now demand service?

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

perhaps a rooting tax will reduce the amount of DPB dependancy too????

perhaps a fast food tax will reduce folks getting fat??????

when the ques for McDonalds first day out of lockdown are looked at..we arent going to make it as a species..more tax will fix that.

Don't forget the climate taxes to make the weather better.
Would love to say what I think about this but got renewal coming up and free speech and transparency blah blah etc

Other Govt departments need to increase reimbursements if we are expected to pay inflation adjusted rates. ACC reimburse travel at 23c a K.

One point is while most of us here are keen shooters or hunters or both, in my experience there are a great deal of rural LFO's who mostly kill pests such as rabbits, possums, goats etc as part of work or because they need to on their property. These people aren't hobbyists or necessarily keen fire arm users. This will cause many to quit (if they can) or possibly some will go outside the law. I would say without a doubt pest control will suffer. I suspect duck shooting is going to take a big hit also.

Originally Posted by 300CALMAN

One point is while most of us here are keen shooters or hunters or both, in my experience there are a great deal of rural LFO's who mostly kill pests such as rabbits, possums, goats etc as part of work or because they need to on their property. These people aren't hobbyists or necessarily keen fire arm users. This will cause many to quit (if they can) or possibly some will go outside the law. I would say without a doubt pest control will suffer. I suspect duck shooting is going to take a big hit also.

A business could write it off as a expense. Am considering asking boss to subsidise my next license application as I do the majority of putting down sick and injured livestock plus the Pest control that I do

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@kotuku @OGM please keep the discussion to the thread topic and don’t let it slide into personal attacks.

Bit like ol Systolic maybe?????

Originally Posted by matagouri

Bit like ol Systolic maybe?????

Very similar tone.

noted stug -hes gone to my ignore list,cant be bothered!

Just been in the ma ncave working and listening to the local ZBt alkback host climbing up cahills arse and showing what a bloody ignoramus he is re mental health .this thing was all for establishing a specialist "mental health police" FFS
People may be placed under papers by police ,family or MH staff if their mental state shows
an inability to care for themselves
their presentation poses a real risk to themselves or kin or property thereof
the show a marked disturbance in volition or mood state sufficient to incapacitate them as above
placement in the hospital isw usually a month /6weeks and further comprehensive assessments are set in motion
Should the subject show sufficient improvement or the crisis resolves the process can be stopped b t a responsible clinician 9psychiatrist)person is free to go.
the actual committal hearing is before a judge where all parties are heard,before a decision is issued.inhouse or community order made
if a person is committed they have the right of appeal using taxpayer funded independent counsel

now this is the important thing 99.9%OF PEOPLE ARE IGNORANT OF.THE ABOVE PROCESS IS LEGAL!
IN HOSPTAL THE PERSON ENJOYS THE BENEFITS OF NZs"PATIENT CODE OF RIGHTS'
The right to REFUSE treatment
The right to be fully informed of all matters pertaining to them
the right to discontinue any treatment or procedure at any stage ,no reason needs be given
this is 3/10 IIRC
anyone see the dilemma MH professionals face??????
to overrule any of these you really need to have your Ps&Q"S sorted cause one tiny slip and your arse is in a big barbed wire sling.
me cunning as a dhit house rat pass decion up the line theyre paid to have the headache.
also all persons in mental health units have free and unfettered access to the district inspector (a fully qualified fairly experienced lawyer govt appointed)who can go anywhere speak to anyone and demand documents etc .to refuse them is again virtual suicide from a nursing POV. so contray to folklore a commited persons legal rights remaiin and are full catered to free of charge.
this ZB cock is full of equine faeces and right up Cahills arse.mods sorry to go off on a tangent but using mental health as a police excuse for inteptitude and have a media dropkick reinforce it pissed me right off.BTWif anyone has any queries re mental health please feel free to ask Im only to willing to assist.