I've been hearing the ads on the radio, and just seen some big ads in the local paper.
Cannot hurt, but I do wonder who the audience is here.
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I've been hearing the ads on the radio, and just seen some big ads in the local paper.
Cannot hurt, but I do wonder who the audience is here.
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Its a good move
i have no issue with storage at all but it seems in the last few weeks its on the radio allot . my firearms etc are worth a few bucks so why wouldnt i store them well. but the radio play advertisements are a little over the top
probably a softening up tactic for the public , implying there is an issue with firearms storage , before they introduce new possibly expensive and nigh on impossible to work with storage laws , such as the vehicular transport lock-up changes on the way .
I have no issues with reminding people of their obligations , don't get me wrong , but these guys don't seem to operate on a single level nowadays . There almost always seems to be a deeper meaning/reason for bringing things into the public eye .
And it generally seems to be to gun owners detriment .... and making it that much more difficult to comply with new laws to point I am sure they are just trying to make the whole gun ownership thing more difficult than it has ever been simply to put people off ownership due to expense and or the amount of hoop jumping etc required .
But hey , that's just my opinion in general terms .
I could be way off base , but I don't think so.....
Stupid picture on the left. If they're encouraging locking up firearms, then at least have the bolt out, the mag off and a trigger lock or some other security shown in the relevant picture. A picture saves a thousand words and all that... Chumps.
I am against removing bolts and mags.
The guns should be locked up, so why remove em?
All my guns have the mags, spare mags and bolts stored fitted and with them.
I see too many guns at auctions without bolts and mags due to an estate sale, and the wife etc has no clue where the bolt is. Or the bolt is lost.
The whole bolt and mag out is police policy, and police policy is horse shit.
I am interested in Law, not policy. If policy was any good, then my policy would cancel out their policy.
Semi autos are fine to store with bolts in, but bolt actions are not. Does that make sense to anyone? I do think removing the mags and storing them seperately is a good idea though. P2 magazines need to be stored in an approved safe, as does ammo to fit. I wonder how long it will be until tha tis the normal rules? Looking at Australia their storage rules are way over the top compared to ours.
Yes, with the current PR campaign, you can safely say the recent Arms Act regulations public consultation for quite ridiculous storage requirements is about to come to a head.
Expect the requirement to anchor firearms to your car while being transported, ammo is locked steel boxes when in transit and new NZPHQ policy that makes 75% of gun safes/cabinets no longer compliant.
Do you mean the bit about having a cold one while in a room full of guns?
No different to having a beer while cleaning one.
So long as all the ammo is put away I cant see a problem.
I can see why the antis would try use it as ammo against us normal people though.
yes that is what I was refering to..... its like saying you have cruise control set at 104kmph ok so you do it..but WHY put it out on internet for all to see???
this thread is about tightening up laws around gun ownership...giving exzample of breaking that rule, if not the law is "just dumb" if it was used/quoted by ALpers and co next week.......here in NZHS forum person, calling themselves 40mm,ha said he would sit in room full of guns and drink alcohol....tut tut how terribly irresponsible of them...we must ban some more things "to keep us all safe" you would feel like a dick for having posted it...would you not???
yeah, I see your point.
I should refrain from mentioning my habit of having a cold one while looking after the kids too. Probably have cyfs on my case!
I must remember not to drink if I am ever in a room full of guns!!!
Ps, Alpers if you are reading this, How's that phony university qualification going?
Time to dob in the local officer who leaves their patrol car unlocked, or when they miss use their firearms. It’s well known than may of the force, do not have practical experience even with their annual Training. Please don’t take me as being anti law enforcement. Just pitty the boot don’t fit for all?
So are they going to use this as ammo against gangs in NZ ?
Or is it okay for them to leave their illegal guns just laying around ?
I’ve just noticed that firearms owned by the Crown (which I assume includes all police and military firearms) are NOT required to be marked with identifying marks OR have details provided to the Police for inclusion in the registry OR to record any particulars, whether in the registry or elsewhere.
Really? The defence force and police don’t need to record the details of their firearms anywhere? WTF!!!I guess that once the registry comes in, that means all guns seized from criminals that aren’t in the registry must be govt firearms stolen or sold on the black market.
Yea they do, all military guns have serial numbers
says they are not the police.......in the "about us" page , we are an independant charity bla bla ........ so obviously have their agenda . wonder what other "charities" they are affilliated to . at least they put their names up so if they ever decide to run for a political party they can be identified and avoided
Mate had a security inspection last week over the hill and was told his ammo had to be locked away, bolts stored separately, and he was asked for a list of his firearms and serial no’s. He called me seeking advise…..unbelievable that this stuff is still happening.
I told him to ask the guy why it had taken 6 months for the inspection given the change of address was sent 7 months ago….
When the guy came to do my renewal recently i asked him if he wanted to see inside the safe or check firearms he said no its not required..and thatz was it
Crimestopper add on facebook. Click the 3 dots at the top of the add and options come up, 1 option is to report, click that more options. Pick 1 offensive or scam and press submit. Takes 30 seconds, lets do this every time we see it and stand up to be counted.
In principle I think making the public aware of "loose firearms" is a sound idea. There are continuing episodes of gang violence involving firearms on the streets amongst residential areas and terrorist threats are still being uncovered. Increasing the public awareness to become more observant of suspicious behaviour is necessary in these times for the safety of "normal kiwis". Some of the draconian police firearms "policy proposals" are a different matter entirely though and should not be confused with the public awareness program.
Would be keen for adds warning the thief what is coming your way for stealing firearms, 5-10 years, forgot we are in NZ, 10 hours community service, and it's not your fault your a thief.
Totally agree. @tetawa
After all the accusations of gangs and crims in general being supplied firearms through theft etc of LFO's as there's no possible other way for them to get their grubby mits on guns otherwise (so we are told) I would not be surprised if we are heading that way . And unfortunately the general public seem to swallow that line and would probably applaud just like with semis .