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    Quote Originally Posted by Boaraxa View Post
    @Cordite , I can see it now if he did kill someone inside the house ...its got manslaughter written all over it you no as hes just firing into the house not meaning to actually hit anyone...was just reading between the lines id imagine most lawyers would put a spin on it like that , look at the other crazy stuff lawyers are calling manslaughter , wont forget a case over carterton way 3 people tied a bloke to a chair doused him in petrol then danced around him flicking there lighters , burnt alive , they didn't get done for murder.
    pretty unjust the family that got shot at quit there jobs and left mean while the scumbag gets to keep his job and house
    I want to know what scumbag heard him fantasizing about gunning the family down two weeks earlier... and then still employs the guy after what he did.

    Sorry, something very odd is going on and the answer that makes sense of it no doubt lies in whatever it is that judge suppressed. Who slept with who etc etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by systolic View Post
    Why? Do you think his family should suffer for bad decisions made by him?
    @systolic Do you think all of society should suffer so that his family does not?

    His bad decisions have repercussions. (or at least they should) Does his family deserve to suffer because of him- Probably not. Will they? Probably. Why? Because, unfortunately for them, someone who is connected to them made some very stupid / dumb / moronic decisions. If he cared for his family perhaps he should have thought about it sooner, say, BEFORE he did something that would affect them.


    His family will suffer, but not because of what the judge did or did not do, but because of one single, individual persons actions; That person is Dwayne Stubbings. He is wholly and completely responsible for his actions and the consequences that will befall his family.

    Problem is that by the judge waving a wet bus ticket at him, now the rest of society gets to feel the consequences as well. If it was your family in the house, would you want him to be let go with no restraint on a repeat???????


    On a different note, notice the media posted a picture of what is almost certainly NOT the firearm involved....Now ask yourselves why..... Why would they possibly do that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by timattalon View Post
    @systolic Do you think all of society should suffer so that his family does not?

    His bad decisions have repercussions. (or at least they should) Does his family deserve to suffer because of him- Probably not. Will they? Probably. Why? Because, unfortunately for them, someone who is connected to them made some very stupid / dumb / moronic decisions. If he cared for his family perhaps he should have thought about it sooner, say, BEFORE he did something that would affect them.


    His family will suffer, but not because of what the judge did or did not do, but because of one single, individual persons actions; That person is Dwayne Stubbings. He is wholly and completely responsible for his actions and the consequences that will befall his family.

    Problem is that by the judge waving a wet bus ticket at him, now the rest of society gets to feel the consequences as well. If it was your family in the house, would you want him to be let go with no restraint on a repeat???????


    On a different note, notice the media posted a picture of what is almost certainly NOT the firearm involved....Now ask yourselves why..... Why would they possibly do that?
    Because the .22 looks way more dangerus cooler than his .308 bolt action and could be passed off as an MSSA, though I notice they avoided the precise term MSSA. Misdirection? Yes. Outright lying? No. Moral distinction? No.

    His shooting spree would have been slightly less dangerous if he'd used the dangerous looking gun depicted.

    I still can't get over the sentence. Can any on this forum imagine he'd have that sentence if he'd done what he did when sober? Alcohol remains the great excuser --- no matter how much judges flap their lips and say it's not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordite View Post
    Because the .22 looks way more dangerus cooler than his .308 bolt action and could be passed off as an MSSA, though I notice they avoided the precise term MSSA. Misdirection? Yes. Outright lying? No. Moral distinction? No.

    His shooting spree would have been slightly less dangerous if he'd used the dangerous looking gun depicted.

    I still can't get over the sentence. Can any on this forum imagine he'd have that sentence if he'd done what he did when sober? Alcohol remains the great excuser --- no matter how much judges flap their lips and say it's not.
    Probably wont matter, but I thought it was an Sks / Skk. Gas tube on top etc but still not the 308.

    As for the Alcohol- Yes people do dumb stuff when drunk, but that is not an excuse, I agree with you there. He chose to drink. So those actions are his responsibility. The victims will have noticed no difference between being shot at by an angry drunk or an angry sober person. Their lives were still at risk.

    That is certainly going to qualify for the neighbour from hell. On that note, how did the judge think putting the offender in Home detention make sense when as a result, the victims live next door to the perpetrator? I personally feel that this is not on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordite View Post
    Because the .22 looks way more dangerus cooler than his .308 bolt action and could be passed off as an MSSA, though I notice they avoided the precise term MSSA. Misdirection? Yes. Outright lying? No. Moral distinction? No.

    His shooting spree would have been slightly less dangerous if he'd used the dangerous looking gun depicted.

    I still can't get over the sentence. Can any on this forum imagine he'd have that sentence if he'd done what he did when sober? Alcohol remains the great excuser --- no matter how much judges flap their lips and say it's not.
    The photo is of a SKS or SKK 7.62x39mm rifle in a Dragunov stock. Not a .22. IT IS a MSSA.

    The photo was taken from Stubbings' Facebook page. That's why they used it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timattalon View Post
    Probably wont matter, but I thought it was an Sks / Skk. Gas tube on top etc but still not the 308.

    As for the Alcohol- Yes people do dumb stuff when drunk, but that is not an excuse, I agree with you there. He chose to drink. So those actions are his responsibility. The victims will have noticed no difference between being shot at by an angry drunk or an angry sober person. Their lives were still at risk.

    That is certainly going to qualify for the neighbour from hell. On that note, how did the judge think putting the offender in Home detention make sense when as a result, the victims live next door to the perpetrator? I personally feel that this is not on.
    The victims don't live next door to Stubbings. They moved away after the shooting. So there's no reason he can't do home detention at his home.
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    Amazing how the media can record what the calibre of the rifle is in this instance and yet often they call air rifles / crossbows etc 'firearms'

    On the topic of the actual incident.... Bloody ridiculous

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    Quote Originally Posted by systolic View Post
    The victims don't live next door to Stubbings. They moved away after the shooting. So there's no reason he can't do home detention at his home.
    Oh! That is just fine then. Glad you cleared that up
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    Maybe Stubbing's plays for Waikato?
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    There must be more to it than is being reported. I mean, he can't of just got pissed up then aggro cos the neighbors looked funny. As usual with the media, the truth doesn't sell as much as a good clickbait story. The sentence sounds extremely light .
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    Landcorp worker? will likely have lost his job

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    Quote Originally Posted by systolic View Post
    Why? Do you think his family should suffer for bad decisions made by him?
    They're probably better off without him by the sound of it. And were you really seriously suggesting that you couldn't work on a dairy farm without a firearms licence?
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    Hmmm-got me suspicions somethings adrift in the top 2"-you know the grey stuff that stops ya eyeballs from flyinout the back of your swede and your ears from committing incest!
    furthermore what sticks out like dogs bolloxis a manifest anger problem and an inabuility to indulge in controlled use of alcohol.
    no doubt as usual the legal dept will say im talking through a hole in me hat!
    Mr legal beagle if i was his family id be disowning the bloody clown PERMANENTLY
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    Quote Originally Posted by GravelBen View Post
    They're probably better off without him by the sound of it. And were you really seriously suggesting that you couldn't work on a dairy farm without a firearms licence?
    No. But it could be a requirement for the particular job he was doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by systolic View Post
    No rugby related posts on his Facebook page. Just cars, an E-cat SKK, AC/DC and other general bogan type stuff.

    And he's 38, so his rugby days are well over.
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