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If your referring to mine it was meant to be tongue in cheek, perhaps that didnt come across in the text.Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwijames
Somethings gone amiss and Im sure the item will be replaced and the damaged one taken back by the manufacturer and analysed. Main thing is nobody lost an eye.
Me too
S hit I just read 3 pages thinking there might have been some thought in to what might have happened:wtfsmilie:
I don't care who made the can, nor would I hold it against them but I'm very curious to know what might have happened and why. Should be beneficial for all parties involved I would have thought.
And if someone decides to check their gear for problems before losing an eye or dying because they see the post? Think you a just string up shit myself . I posted about a fuji camera in the photo section . Sure hope I don't send canon broke . Stop reading something into it . It's not there .Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwijames
Do you have any thoughts on what happened looseunit?
🔨🔩 should be able to tart the old girl up no worries...
I don't know shit from chewed dates compared to half the regulars that post on here. To me it's a black can (nice finish on it too). Though I'd have worked out who made it easily enough, it wouldn't have stopped me buying one at all. I'm not stupid enough to think that if I buy of these it's going to end up halfway down the range at all.. I'm more curious as to what caused the failure, which is what the OP was after too I think. We're all interested in shit that goes bang, we all like to go have a poke at what got banged, and are keen on as much more Bang as possible. Take it easy fellas
not yet . Had just shot 5 rounds sighting in the new scope and was on the 2nd shot through the crony that it let go . Will look at the baffle to see if it's been eroded by gas cutting where it let go . The remaining piece on the barrel was tight so no way it had come loose , there's a mark in the exit hole but looks more like impact with the wood heap that bullet strike as there's no sign of copper . The back end nut was dragged up the isolation tube before letting go so that wasn't the problem . To me so far loss like shit happens material failure . With things getting lighter and thinner maybe we are cutting weight/material in the wrong places . I know I could lose more weight than my rifle .Quote:
Originally Posted by Gibo
Interesting but not the first time I've seen it.
Thanks for posting
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I didn't know who the manufacturers were, I didn't read any slagging of them. All I saw was a failure posted about with pics to back it up. I had no clue what loose unit does for a job and now i do know i still can't tell why that means anything apart from those cans must be good if he's using one but i tend to look at the positive side rather than negative. Why the panties in a bunch brigade getting all uptight? Thrush cream anyone?
Chill out people, you look like dicks, jumping up and down over fuck all.
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Thanks for posting. Public safety announcement? Appreciate the fact you have taken a big risk in posting, but kudos for having the balls to do so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Looseunit
Certainly not the first one of these to let go that i am aware of. One failed on a .300 Win Mag at a recent field shoot near Akl, and also aware of some other Gen5 units failing recently on magnums. Obviously major design or material issues, still. If this was the US a major recall would be issued. Funny, in NZ ...... shoot the messenger ! (or Shhhhh, it's never happened before....... but here's a replacement.) :thumbsup:
Pretty embarrassing for NZ manufacturing if these things are being exported though, and failing. Foreigners often are not so forgiving when stuff blows up on them. The OP probably got a fright and had to change his undies. In the US he might have sued for 'emotional harm' . Lol.
Glad you are okay, looseunit.
Looks like a lesser grade suppressor that's been photo shopped to look like a better one!
My 2 cents is there was a potentially dangerous incident with a piece of hardware. So its a warning to the rest of us, if only to double check the damn thing is screwed on tight, so I am glad it was posted.
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Agreed. I own one, and am not looking to change it after seeing this. It hasn't changed my thoughts on the product(s) one way or the other. I am just curious how it happened and wish more effort was going into discussing that rather than whether it should have been posted or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by screamO
If someone posted a busted rifle or something similar I doubt there would be people on here going on about how it was wrecking the reputation of Browning or Sako, or whoever. These sort of threads are interesting. Would you bash him for not posting it if you found out....would he then be covering it up or some other bs?
Don't mention 1080 :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Looseunit
Have my pills turned up yet ( returned ) the 1:9 that were ment to be 1:10
had a big magnum one leak like a sieve with a 308Quote:
Originally Posted by Mauser308
they not made of ali, and they are certainly not cheap to buy
just dam lucky no one was hurt
and hopefully its sorted in a timely manner
The OP said 'low round count', i would like to know exactly how many????? Also bold claims have been made by the manufacturer and re-sellers about how great these units are. What do you consider reasonable service life? If this was sold as a magnum-rated can it should be able to handle it, not blow up prematurely? Material selection is just part of the problem. Flawed design and lax assembly are just other possible contributors to this event??? I bet there are likely to be some nervous H&F dealers out there who may find themselves seeing customers bringing in more of these sort of catastrophies, especially on the magnums. It is just a matter of time IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mauser308
I think its good that looseunit has posted this , despite of whether he works at a gunshop or not
definetly take it as a safety warning. id like to see whether there was an engineers sign off on the design of the product pictured - call it pc but if it harmed someone you wouldn't have a foot to stand on in court
doesn't mean any other suppressor manufacturers product is any worse off at this stage however I have had two shoddy jobs come back from the manufacturer of the above suppressor so ive learnt from my lesson and am staying clear!
I made a suppressor last year, my first. The joining baffle and the next baffle are stainless steel. Hell it's heavy compared to these new ones. There is always a trade off when we compromise weight and material type; something gives., sooner or later something gives. We know that alloy baffles can never last blasts of this type, even stainless doesn't last.
I'd like to know more about this failure and what caused it or a likely cause, my guess would be alignment.
Wow, this thread was 97% horse shit.
Full credit to OP for posting, it's why were all here as someone said earlier. There is no good reason to HIDE the fact that it happened, or who made it, or any of that PC nonsense.
And who cares if this is found via a search engine?! When I research a product before buying it, I want to find as much info as I can, good AND bad, to make an informed decision.
Informed decisions, more or less the backbone of why forums work so well.
Look forward to seeing what HRE has to say, and how they plan to deal with it.
And I'm certain that people reading this in the future will only be interested in the same thing.
My guess will he won't give 2 flying fucks.. Certainly didn't when I reported an imminent failure.
didnt phillipo have a similar "it dissapeared with a bang incident"
Im pissd i wasted the time to read 5 pages for nothing, I thought Mr Hardy or a spokesman should of replied that they would look into it and sort it ASAP already. If history shows us anything, it could be a long wait.
While we wait should we make fun of the shooter that uses 150gr loads in a 300wm hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
I think Jason did the right thing posting the image. ( Caveat Emptor )
That big tall bloke from Hamilton sent us some extra baffles for our 223 cans which apparently he made by hand.We are a bit anxious because the baffle was made on a cnc machine but they performed faultlessly in the rain yesterday. Give him a ring.
Right after 5 page's of dribble, here's my take on things
Take it from someone that had a "light weight magnum suppressor" fail ( and yes there's no point dancing around not naming manufacturers, as everyone knows mine & this one was a HRE ) these friggen things don't go pop!, they go farken "BANG"
and it isn't a nice experience when they do, so for a few of you that are giving "looseunit" a hard time, try it for your self & see if you enjoy gettin smacked by Mike Tyson & a face full of shit.
This was well known, as it happened at a FnH forum gong shot, This was an early Gen 1 - 2 unit on a Kimber 7mm WSM
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Dan sorted mine & he'll sort this one, he's always been good like that ( but shit they cost fuk all to produce ) so what the heck it's only a few $$ he don't give a toss, funny that my replacement also bulged after about 50 rounds blahahahaha
PS- I have nothing against Dan or any other suppressor maker ( shit HRE are doing very well for themselves at the mo ) but
A couple of points to take out'a this thread & I wish that some suppressor manufactures would inform their customers of this when using on medium-large centerfires.
These "Light weight can's" are made out of light weight material's like alloy, they aren't very strong & fatigue, so use them for there purpose, hunting! & by hunting I mean Deer shooting ( 3 rounds ) not bombing up 20 rounds in 2'mins on a mob of goats.
They aren't designed for gong shooting, While "cans" are great for shooting in a group ( far more socially welcomed than shooting with a brake ) putting 30-50 rounds through a "LW Can" in an hour, ain't guna do it any good.
Don't fit a "LW can" to anything bigger than a 30-06, the recoil reduction is fuk all & they don't like the pressure ( 60-65,000 psi ) go get a decent brake & a decent set of muffs, your shoulder will love you for it.
Just my two cent's worth
Chur
Or some hardening cream
Which is why I have a brake for range/gongs/hunting with others and a suppressor for hunting with the dog
Maybe I should go buy back those Reflex T8 tanks I sold 12 months ago.
Nothing will destroy those f**kers.
Nah.... got sick of lugging them around. :pissed off:
Happy with my DPT modulars on my bolts and DPT steel baffled AR can. :D
MAE full stainless and get an arm workout at the same time ha ha
I had 2 MAE stainless supressors bulge on a 300rum
I don't own a suppressor because I figure once the deer is dead, the noise don't matter much. I can't carry out more than one these days.
However, I have researched a bit on suppressors manufactured in Europe. Some of these , especially the upmarket ones specifically warn against firing more than 5 rounds from a magnum in any one sequence of shooting before allowing the suppressor to cool and be cleaned before re-use. Abuse of this condition voids warranty and liability.
I agree strongly with Philipo post.
If I had 300 rums I'd be more than bulging!!Quote:
Originally Posted by L.R
Seems a few people jump to conclusions about what you are up to. Thanks for posting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Looseunit
I have to agree this thread turned to horse shit pretty damn fast.
Disappointing to say the least. The OP didn't have a crack at anyone and I personally didn't know who had supplied and fitted the can.
It would have been preferable instead of making assumptions that the questions were answered. I run a can on my boom stick and if it's possible it will fail give me the reasons why.
Cheers
I'd just like to say that after watching a few of NORWAY's videos on Youtube, his can must be pretty top notch. That dude fires hundreds of rounds in a sitting out of that 6.5x284 and it has survived pretty well. Granted it's not a magnum or anything. But still impressive.
Yes those cans are awesome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daggers_187
Have one on my blaser way above anything made here..........
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