Thread: Useing the firearms register

Originally Posted by Ground Control

I’m a bit late to the game because I’m in Australia at the moment.
We are going to be doing renovations/ moving address later this year and my security and details will need to be changed/ checked .
I was going to hold off registration until those changes / circumstances are in effect .
But I will need to buy some ammo before then , I’ve been getting mixed messages from a few mates I’ve talked to on the phone .
Does buying ammo trigger the need to register ?

From
https://www.firearmssafetyauthority....0be%20recorded.

"When arms items must be registered"
The regulations specify the “activating circumstances” that will trigger licence holders to engage with the Registry, including when licence holders:

apply for a licence or an endorsement
have a change in circumstances, such as a change of address
sell or supply, purchase or receive, import, export, manufacture or modify an arms item
report the theft, loss or destruction of an arms item
import ammunition
sell ammunition (dealers and ammunition sellers only)
purchase ammunition after 24 June 2025, or
are subject to compliance or enforcement action by Police under the Act or regulations.

Originally Posted by ROKTOY

From
https://www.firearmssafetyauthority....0be%20recorded.

"When arms items must be registered"
The regulations specify the “activating circumstances” that will trigger licence holders to engage with the Registry, including when licence holders:

apply for a licence or an endorsement
have a change in circumstances, such as a change of address
sell or supply, purchase or receive, import, export, manufacture or modify an arms item
report the theft, loss or destruction of an arms item
import ammunition
sell ammunition (dealers and ammunition sellers only)
purchase ammunition after 24 June 2025, or
are subject to compliance or enforcement action by Police under the Act or regulations.

Cheers Mate

That simplifies / clarifies things for me .

And C licenced have to ring, cannot do on line?
Have you seen the Antique Arms report, sounds like fun. Just over an hour on the phone for the first one and just under for the second, you can do max of 13 in a row?

Bought a set of scope rings today in Invers and had to supply my firearms licence. Words fail me!!!

Originally Posted by ghosts

Bought a set of scope rings today in Invers and had to supply my firearms licence. Words fail me!!!

H&Js Outdoor World ? They've been doing it for ages, it's a "management" requirement (strongly opposed and ridiculed to no avail by the shop floor guys) that all things firearm related (as determined by someone other than shop floor guys, inputting inventory into the sales system) need an FAL.

Just another example of someone (in management) mistaking their opinion for a fact!

and the fustercluck begins

I've needed a fal to buy a thread cap before

No different to US shops refusing to ship me scope caps 1 time because they were listed as optical sighting accessories

The look up tables are confusing, well I have found them so . . . E.g. make versus manufacturer will produce different results.

It's peculiar cause two of my extremely rare Mauser sporters are in the database, but like you, I can't find the Bergara BMR. I did look for your Rossi and I can't find it either, seems that some of the latest models (and going back nearly two years since BMRs were first offered) are not there . . . More time on hold!

My Rossi single shot 308 is not in the look up list, I rang and they told me to use the last option. My rifle has no model no stamped on it and has a different serial no on the barrel to the action, they told me to use the action serial no.

Also in the database each list has a number starting with F tagged on the end, anyone know what that relates to?

Originally Posted by Happy Jack

My Rossi single shot 308 is not in the look up list, I rang and they told me to use the last option.

I would ask them to confirm that in writing/email before complying.

Remember you clicked Yes to this:

I understand it is an offence to provide information to the Police for inclusion in the Registry, knowing the information to be false or misleading in a material respect (Arms Act 1983, section 58A).*

This is a legal document, where "close enough" on the phone could equal trouble at inspection.

I've had a chat to one of the bosses here who has dealt with the FSA a bit. Our advice is to call them if the gun isn't on the list and ask to give them feedback about it.

Unfortunately it seems that the list is a design choice to keep it accurate as possible and I kind of agree. If we are all putting slight variations of the same thing then it just gets worse and worse.

Definitely give them the feedback about missing models etc. We've put it in our list of feedback too.

Originally Posted by Coop

I've had a chat to one of the bosses here who has dealt with the FSA a bit. Our advice is to call them if the gun isn't on the list and ask to give them feedback about it.

Unfortunately it seems that the list is a design choice to keep it accurate as possible and I kind of agree. If we are all putting slight variations of the same thing then it just gets worse and worse.

Definitely give them the feedback about missing models etc. We've put it in our list of feedback too.

Problem is having a list is going to create issues - after all how many rifles are rechambered rebarreled or modified away from what they were and you just won't get that on the prepopulated list?

There are going to be a lot of people that can find theirs on the list - good o. A lot of people will drive down the list, find the nearest and probably not even realise that what they have is different to what they registered, and then others won't be able to complete online at all and need to go through the phone in and scratch heads. That's where it falls over, as then you've got humans entering in remotely and if they enter it wrong and you can't correct it who's fault is that? Not ideal, seems very rushed and not thought through. The fact you are only limited to alphanumeric characters with dash and slash is a bit of a headbutt too.

I think Ill probably have an issue. As I have a CZ600. But not the new CZ600 but rather a BRNO 600 that instead of being marked as a BRNO, is marked as CZ

Originally Posted by whanahuia

I think Ill probably have an issue. As I have a CZ600. But not the new CZ600 but rather a BRNO 600 that instead of being marked as a BRNO, is marked as CZ

Yes, interface between the two names of the companies and before the model line up was completely refreshed. A similar one is ex-military rifles, commercially refurbed but with all the remanufacture details on the original barrel. A barrel or two later, hmm what do we actually have???