Thread: Useing the firearms register

Originally Posted by Fatberg

I watched the talk that Te Tari Pukeko gave to the Auckland Antique Arms Accoc on YouTube. This question came up as some of the guys there have very old firearms without a serial number. Apparently they expect you to deface your firearm and add a serial number. If I recall correctly at that time of the video they were writing some guidelines for this situation that hadn't yet been published.

There's going to be a lot of "1" and "2" being used. Or using anything that is marked on the thing, doesn't have to be numbers in reality.

According to their official line at the launch of the register ammunition purchase doesn't become a trigger event till mid 2025 that's probably so the bugs can be sorted out and a reasonable number of entries already made before it gets swamped. I have no idea if it is intended to record each purchase ie amount, calibre, date and possibly supplier and location against a fal or if it's just a trigger event if you're not already in the system.
I do know clubs are supposed to keep records of ammunition sales for 2 years now

I wonder would fuckedifiknow would pass as a serial no.

Are we all sending them an invoice for our time?

Originally Posted by 300CALMAN

Aparently built on SAP their consultants will get very rich.

The problems noted above are somewhat concerning to say the least.

Let's face it. Everytime govt in NZ tries an IT thing they fuck it up

Originally Posted by Steve123

Let's face it. Everytime govt in NZ tries an IT thing they fuck it up

Yup
They are good at fuckery but they seem to do even better when IT is involved

Originally Posted by Steve123

Let's face it. Everytime govt in NZ tries an IT thing they fuck it up

IRDs new system works pretty well, came in under budget and on time.

Where NZ had trouble was they wanted bespoke solutions for each agency. The system running the register was an off the shelf product, with some minor cosmetic tweaks, not a bespoke solution.

Originally Posted by HG Man

IRDs new system works pretty well, came in under budget and on time.

Where NZ had trouble was they wanted bespoke solutions for each agency. The system running the register was an off the shelf product, with some minor cosmetic tweaks, not a bespoke solution.

“Off the shelf product” …. Not Canadian by any chance?

Originally Posted by chainsaw

“Off the shelf product” …. Not Canadian by any chance?

Australian. Objective Corp is the outfits name.

Originally Posted by HG Man

Australian. Objective Corp is the outfits name.

They won the 13 million dollar contract to set up the registry over 5 yrs , they were fined $1.5mil in the courts here around the same time for breaching commerce act rules I believe go figure ….

Originally Posted by HG Man

Australian. Objective Corp is the outfits name.

What an ironic name.

We need a "you're bloody right but I can't like it" button...

Tricky little job to do the website registration - at least for me.

Few little steps that aren't quite so clear. Finally rang the help number and - eventually - got a young lady who helped me register (submit) 2 of my rifles on the site. Then was able to do the rest without hiccups. As others have mentioned earlier, the helper enabled this to be done promptly. Recommended. And good to have this job done.

Originally Posted by mudgripz

Tricky little job to do the website registration - at least for me.

Few little steps that aren't quite so clear. Finally rang the help number and - eventually - got a young lady who helped me register (submit) 2 of my rifles on the site. Then was able to do the rest without hiccups. As others have mentioned earlier, the helper enabled this to be done promptly. Recommended. And good to have this job done.

Glad to get your thoughts. Your experience pretty much parallels mine. The steps to recording details are not all obvious or instinctive and it's easy to become flustered, at least that's my experience. But the call centre staff are eager to help although you can tell they are also struggling with the system a bit. But once you understand and follow the necessary steps getting the info into the register is fairly easy.

Strange experience so far.

I tried to finish setting up my profile and it wouldn’t recognise my license and kept getting error messages. Range up the helpline and was told to try with capital letters instead. First red flag that a public access data driven piece of software doesn’t work properly when it only accepts capital letters… Anyway it still didn’t work. The lady mentioned there had been numerous calls with the same issue, but weirdly she still act all baffled when mine wouldn’t work. So it’s been elevated to technical support to get fixed and might take up to a week…

While I had someone on the phone, I decided to clarify some things. It’s been mentioned about custom/wildcat calibres already but I asked the question about how it will work. I was out on hold, and she came back with the answer that I would have to phone in the details of a firearm of custom caliber and they would input it into the system. I think this is a different answer to what has been already mentioned. No clue to which is correct…

I asked about registering unbarreled actions and what caliber they would be. I was out through to an ‘arms officer’ to be the answer. His answer was ‘wow great question, I’ve never been asked that one.’ �� Really? Ok then. Anyway, the answer is that it doesn’t require a caliber, just make model and serial.

I also asked if I would be still given a full 30 days allowance for registration, given that I may not be able to access the system for a week while the previous issue is being addressed, and that I have an activating event today. The response was general confusion and uncertainty, and a muttering about ‘oh you’ll probably be ok.’ Not very reassuring.

So far pretty unimpressed.