Thread: Very Powerful Firearms

mainly due to the Port Arthur tragedy. if any thing pro firearm comes up the antis come up with-please remember port Arthur, what about the families etc and yet there are drive by shootings every week in western Sydney by gangs. doesn't stop them.
I never got my Firearms license over there to much of a PITA.
You need permission in writing from a landowner to go shooting on their property which you require for the sporting classification vs the target stuff you do at the range which unless you are super rural and a long way away from must do similar to our pistol club you have to do as well. So many shoots per class per year etc
different classes between rimfire/shotguns and centerfires.
In the last few years they brought down the waiting period for purchasing a firearm from 6 odd weeks to only a few days for any after the first firearm, then it is still 6-8 weeks I think for the first one
Nothing over 9mm (I think) in the pistol clubs, pump action rifles ok, pump action shotties bad.
Full registration
If a cocky gave permission to too many shooters the cops were known to ask why the farmer needs his firearms license (which he can have as a primary producer) If he has so many shooters.
It goes on and on.
Did I say Muppets?

This lecture is well worth watching. Very very relevant perspectives.

I encourage all forum members not to write abusive or slander-like posts about the authorities in this matter, if you think they don’t read these threads then think again. As posted above, its a very serious issue to NZ shooting sports.

https://youtu.be/0dOEON-H9BQ

Originally Posted by Flyblown

I encourage all forum members not to write abusive or slander-like posts about the authorities in this matter, if you think they don’t read these threads then think again. As posted above, its a very serious issue to NZ shooting sports.

Why? Servile behaviour and the attendant grovelling while attempting to point a bureaucrat's attention to another shooting discipline, while leaving yours alone, failed for you in your previous places of residence.

In 1996, as Australia adopted their National firearms agreement, our senior Police policy makers, persuaded the Govt. of the day to open an inquiry headed by a retired judge named Thorp. This firearms inquiry produced a report titled "The Thorp Report" in 1997, which among other gems recommended universal registration of firearms, the banning of semiautomatic firearms, and all private firearms held in state armouries as required security.

A Bill was speedily produced and passed it's first reading in Parliament. Thousands gave up their time and travelled great distances to make their voices heard at the select committee meetings held around the country in 2000. The Govt. of the day decided not to proceed with the Bill, and so the status quo was maintained.

Senior police and their fellow travellers have never got over this defeat, and moved on to administering the firearms laws of NZ. Police are always pushing to implement the recommendations of the "Thorp report", through illegal policy, which the average licence holder cannot afford to dispute, and constant lobbying of their minister and parliament to change the law according to police direction.
Police and their Union have no conscience about lying to Parliament, and the public, in order to achieve their agenda. Most NZ media are fools or complicit, as they are a major force in demonizing firearms owners.

You would be wise to recognize the enemy.

Originally Posted by JWB

Why? Servile behaviour and the attendant grovelling while attempting to point a bureaucrat's attention to another shooting discipline, while leaving yours alone, failed for you in your previous places of residence.

In 1996, as Australia adopted their National firearms agreement, our senior Police policy makers, persuaded the Govt. of the day to open an inquiry headed by a retired judge named Thorp. This firearms inquiry produced a report titled "The Thorp Report" in 1997, which among other gems recommended universal registration of firearms, the banning of semiautomatic firearms, and all private firearms held in state armouries as required security.

A Bill was speedily produced and passed it's first reading in Parliament. Thousands gave up their time and travelled great distances to make their voices heard at the select committee meetings held around the country in 2000. The Govt. of the day decided not to proceed with the Bill, and so the status quo was maintained.

Senior police and their fellow travellers have never got over this defeat, and moved on to administering the firearms laws of NZ. Police are always pushing to implement the recommendations of the "Thorp report", through illegal policy, which the average licence holder cannot afford to dispute, and constant lobbying of their minister and parliament to change the law according to police direction.
Police and their Union have no conscience about lying to Parliament, and the public, in order to achieve their agenda. Most NZ media are fools or complicit, as they are a major force in demonizing firearms owners.

You would be wise to recognize the enemy.

You mate, have completely missed the point.

If you go about your business being offensive and slandering your opponents and telling the world you think those that make the law are stupid etc etc then lets see how far you get. My experience of life says keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer.

If you think the Sporting Shooters Association of Australia appreciate gun owners making vile and gratuitous comments about the police on internet forums, then you are sorely mistaken.

Read my post again. I said “I encourage all forum members not to write abusive or slander-like posts”. Since when does choosing not to approach this serious matter in an abusive manner make me a serville groveller ffs? Are you for real? I will put this down to simply misunderstanding my point of view, if that’s not the case then you are foolish.

Believe me, if you fight this battle from the gutter, you’ll loose. There is a zero tolerance attitude for the kind of crap that gets written about the police on these forums, they will ise it against us, it makes the job so much harder, just like it does in all aspects of life.

Originally Posted by Flyblown

You mate, have completely missed the point.

If you go about your business being offensive and slandering your opponents and telling the world you think those that make the law are stupid etc etc then lets see how far you get. My experience of life says keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer.

If you think the Sporting Shooters Association of Australia appreciate gun owners making vile and gratuitous comments about the police on internet forums, then you are sorely mistaken.

Read my post again. I said “I encourage all forum members not to write abusive or slander-like posts”. Since when does choosing not to approach this serious matter in an abusive manner make me a serville groveller ffs? Are you for real? I will put this down to simply misunderstanding my point of view, if that’s not the case then you are foolish.

Believe me, if you fight this battle from the gutter, you’ll loose. There is a zero tolerance attitude for the kind of crap that gets written about the police on these forums, they will ise it against us, it makes the job so much harder, just like it does in all aspects of life.

I agree. Keeping it civil is the best way to show we are reasonable and rational.

Originally Posted by Flyblown

This lecture is well worth watching. Very very relevant perspectives.

I encourage all forum members not to write abusive or slander-like posts about the authorities in this matter, if you think they don’t read these threads then think again. As posted above, its a very serious issue to NZ shooting sports.

https://youtu.be/0dOEON-H9BQ

She is very good. I can't believe I just said that about an Aussie.