Thread: Warning shot for gun owners

Originally Posted by Wirehunt

This privilege thing is an interesting approach.

For some a privilege maybe, but for others a way of life.

Agree wirehunt but in this country never a right.

Originally Posted by Rushy

Agree wirehunt but in this country never a right.

And I think that the USA is the only country in the world where firearm ownership is a right.

Originally Posted by Rushy

Agree wirehunt but in this country never a right.

Bloody oath Rushy and we would all do well to remember that

It is the RIGHT of every FIT AND PROPER Kiwi to hold and use firearms within the law.

Spotlighting public camping grounds probably rules out the fit and proper bit

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

It is the RIGHT of every FIT AND PROPER Kiwi to hold and use firearms within the law.

Unfortunately nowhere in the Bill of Rights Act 1990 does it say that a New Zealander has a right to own a firearm.

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

It is the RIGHT of every FIT AND PROPER Kiwi to hold and use firearms within the law.

Spotlighting public camping grounds probably rules out the fit and proper bit

Yeah i get you mean that it IS in the law. On the moral level though i know of so many who aren't fit to hold a crayon let alone a rifle. I respect those who are proficient, safe and considerate with their firearm ownership/usage. Since nobody is inherently born with these traits i don't regard ownership as a 'right'. It's a commitment IMO

Originally Posted by Dead is better

Yeah i get you mean that it IS in the law. On the moral level though i know of so many who aren't fit to hold a crayon let alone a rifle. I respect those who are proficient, safe and considerate with their firearm ownership/usage. Since nobody is inherently born with these traits i don't regard ownership as a 'right'. It's a commitment IMO

Good post

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

It is the RIGHT of every FIT AND PROPER Kiwi to hold and use firearms within the law.

Spotlighting public camping grounds probably rules out the fit and proper bit

There is some case law, or a judge saying that it isnt a right but a privilege. Im not up on the ins and outs of english and maybe legal english but it would seem there is a clear difference.

regards

Originally Posted by Rushy

Agree wirehunt but in this country never a right.

It was an implicit right before it became a privilege. The right to self defense is fundamental to all other rights. The right to self defense means nothing if you don't have the appropriate tools.