Tussock I think you a right, but knee jerk reactions haven't helped in the past and long term strategies change every change of government, minister or commissioner. The crap that has happened over the s43 a form shows either no one knows what is happening really, or as I suspect the police cocked up they way they administered it and won't fess up. It's a fcuking shambles really. I do believe if you have a firearm and present it you have given away your right to life, no negotiation,
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