Bought a packet of similar stuff about 25 yrs ago from sportsways. Took a couple pheasant shooting during the season....My Gordon setter went on 'set' in a swamp and I could just see the top of a pukeko's head 5 metres in front of the dogs nose.....told the dog to stay while I swapped out the #5's for rubber buckshot then released the dog..First shot at about 15m dropped the Puk .........it hit the ground, then got up again.....second shot dropped it and the same thing happened.......my gordon looked at me in disgust as the Puk flew away wallowing away like a shotup WWII bomber.......
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