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Had a go at some club sporting clays, and it looks like something I could enjoy.
Some advice from the sporting shooters on here...
As a leftie, would I be better of getting one of the semis with a shim kit to fit the gun, or look various O/U and try to find something that works ?
What is involved getting a O/U fitted ? Can someone give me a rough idea on cost for having this done, and maybe suggestions for someone in the Welly/Wairarapa area ?
A semi with a shim kit would get you going. You can buy lefty semis now BUT picking up empties gets old real fast if you shoot more than occaisionally, U/O is the way to go
Join your local club they should be able to point you in the direction of some one who can check gun fit. Its very addictive :D
I’ll only offer this to you because you know puffin, you can borrow my beretta semi to see if it will work for you. My understanding is an under over is the only way to go though. As mikee says picking up shells gets very ordinary very quickly and the semi has too much happening to put you off your second shot.
Thanks 2post, are you a leftie as well ?
If you are going the semi auto route then get a mag stick to pick up ya empty’s, you will keep the others at the clubs happy and it’s good to be a tidy kiwi :thumbsup:
Maybe a chamber flag as well, although I know of one club here which tells semi auto uses to sleeve there guns between stands and always carry pointing down. Because you can only see the flag from one side.
Hope you get into it ebf as it’s a fun sport, only one to blame once you are fitted is yourself for missing :XD:
Yup, one of the guys had a pickup stick today - very nifty gadget :thumbsup:
Saves ya back......and screws when they fall out:pissed off::o:D
Not a lefty but dad and daughter are so understand.
You can find under and overs with a no cast. Look at pigeon grade Winchester. A few of them are like this. Just got one for Dad he’s a lefty.
Here’s one https://www.guncity.com/12ga-winches...8-skeet-356924
You will need to see it for your self as obviously someone could have had it fitted.
@ebf. NZCTA has a number of certfied AGrade coaches around various clubs. Check with them before spending any $$. Also most clubs have club guns along with friendly shooters so you can try various guns. Gun stocks can be "bent" using a hot oil and jig process. There are a few gunsmiths competent to modify a wood stock in this way.
It is normal to develope gun mount technique as you gain experience so locking into an initial gun usually ends in frustration and then gun swapping and money wasting. Best to find an A GRADE coach at the outset; one you keep going back to. Different shotgun disciplines often use differing shotguns, much like different rifkes for different competition requirements. A "sporting clays" shotgun configuration including removable chokes is a good all rounder to start off , but get stock adjustment advice from genuine experts, not mouthy knowitalls.
excellent advice although I am not a member of a NZCTA affiliated club as I cannot stand the politics. Rather a bunch of guys who have invested in some traps (10 so far all ) and only shoot sporting.Quote:
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Took me ages to get on with my gun thought it was a lemon but it was me :D
A lot of clay shooter go through probably 15-20 guns loking for "the perfect fit" whereas a top coach and gunfitter can save 90% of that wasted time powder and $$ in the long run.
What woody said. But don’t choke on choke:( a lot of people get hung up on this. For most skeet or open at 30/40 yards you will still smash clays with 21g 7.5 shot. Buy a nice gun get it fitted professionally and your halfway there! Then practice, remember also the number 1 golden rule HAVE FUN! If your not then your doing it all wrong:D
older bro is a lefty and the lamber U/O works ok for him as has stuff all cast...neither does the bakail....
I had a morgan adjustable butt plate on an old S/S and tweaked it till she fit like a glove...cant see why you couldnt get enough cast that way from something reasonably straight to begin with.
Exactly, I wish someone had given me that information when i started. As far as chokes go last year I used Skeet and cylinder for everything near and wayy far . This year full and extra full for everything. When I try and match the choke to the target my shooting goes pooze.Quote:
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I am driving up to the NI ipsc event in November.Quote:
Originally Posted by ebf
Happy to bring my machine up if you want some one on one then. I don't shoot clays seriously anymore but still do alright if I do.
Shot an auto for years on sporting till I was given a good o/u gun which I hated at first.
Have a shot cam as well which is an amazing aid. If you're serious about getting into it I would advise buying one. My son kicks my ass when he can be bothered just by learning from the footage.
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Having given this problem of yours some thought, I fail to understand why as a lefty, a different configuration of shotgun would alter your success. Perhaps if you had any wayward political thoughts just prior to pulling on the trigger, there would be a larger tally of misses.:oQuote:
Originally Posted by ebf
mybe cause the orange targets are too close to red???
C.O.F’s are typically set up for right handers. Statistically that’s appropriate. Sporting clays are pretty mean and I fucking love it. Don’t bother with a semi. I went full retard and got a custom perazzi. Never regretted it for a second!
I’m a lefty... shoot just about every other week... use an over/under and a Remington versa-max no issues whatsoever
Quote...I fail to understand why as a lefty, a different configuration of shotgun would alter your success.
It doesn’t.. I shoot competition ,various agendas....you name it we shoot it,in all the years I’ve been doing skeet competitions they are designed so no one is at a disadvantage.My advice,ask to use or shoot various shooters shotguns (if they will let you)then make yr mind up.Awesome fun
The Semis are fairly adjustable, and some are available in left hand. The Beretta A400 Xtreme Plus will be available in lefty before next duck season.
Over and Under's - Left & Right handed over & under's are cast differently (the curve of the stock to align the shooters eye with the center of the rib is different).
We offer a free custom fitting service on all our Beretta Over & Unders. It basically involves meeting with our gun fitter (Gavin Paton), who would look at how you hold the gun, how it aligns with your eye etc and make adjustments to the stock as necessary.
I would suggest you consider the Beretta 686 Silver Pigeon Sporting 30" then get it fitted by Gavin. (Gavin is an Olympic coach). Only problem is fitting needs to be done in Auckland.
as a leftie Iuse ordinary s/a or O/u no problems. mt escort can have shims fitted but have never bothered.bought a baikal o/u from c404 a while ago -it does the job sweet and if im feeling a little bored on our own private shoots i sometimes switch between the two .Quote:
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Try being a right hand shot with a left master eye.
I used to be a fair shot on the clays but now not so much. older and probably some eyesight issues. really need to relearn it properly as I always seemed to get away with using the force.
BTW yes if the gun doesn't fit you are wasting your time.
There are a bunch of guns out there that have adjustable cheek pieces fitted.
You could make your own pattern board and adjust the cheek piece to suit where you want the lead to end up.
Once you have that sorted hide or throw the tools away that you need to adjust the stock so you don't fiddle with it on an off day.
I was actually under the impression a lot of shotguns nowadays have bugger all cast in them. pretty easy to check at the store.