that maybe true , although I did read an interesting observation from Ruff on the other forum that motivated me to ask about a book on the subject matter -I think I would be a better trainer by understanding some of the ways a dog relates to things .In researching this a little some very interesting subject matter was raised about things I took for granted like pack mentality -like the wolf example often used and a socialized dog which isnt pack oriented and other dogs that act like scavengers and dont have a pack mentality but a very self centered one .Anyways tonight I will post some stuff I saw written for interest sake
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