Sorry mate, you are slightly wrong there - an EB import won a championship P&S in the South island last September. He is the first in NZ.
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you ruiner smallfry :oh noes:
Fantastic stuff....look forward to seeing more entries from these spunky little dogs.
NZ Gundog Magazine December 2012
Canterbury Lab Club Champs 22-23 september 2012
Pointer Judge Kerry Mattson
1st Barry Hill NZCh Ethos De Wyngold (Imp USA) 73pts
2nd Barry Hill Ch Holmbrook Sophie Neveu QC 69pts
Barry competes on a regular basis with his Britts.
Brittanys or EB from France -a slight difference
The original post said the "first Breton to get any field recognition in NZ".
The Wyngold dog is pure Epagneul Breton bred bloodlines imported from the USA.
There are no Pointer live game trials in the south island so it is not a contest of live v's pigeon trials.
The breed is known as brittany in NZ - there is no difference in registration of pups by where they are bred.
See the Brittany litter advertised on Trademe at present. Dad is an "EB" and Mum is a "Brittany" - all the pups are NZKC registered as Brittany.
That is typical breeding in NZ.
similar to gwp, gsp and DD,DK....... registration aside those within the breeds know the difference.
What sort of birds do they use? The heathen rabbiters put up quite a few of them rooster thing's the other week, didn't even bother swinging the gun on something so easy. Quails are in numbers not seen for a long time, and maybe the last year they'll be seen like it to with all the 1080 going out this year.
so how far down am i heading then ?
Yep, South Island live game trials would be crazy. Shooting trials on quail!
Silly part is it wouldn't be hard to make happen.
how many areas do you know that would hold coveys through an area of 4 -7 kms running say 7 dogs
You don't need that big of an area to run 7 dogs and get them all onto good numbers of birds, but some of the ground is steep. However I can think of maybe 5 offhand.
I just wish you trialling types would use the massive resource of rabbits, you could work your dogs for a month and not cover the same ground twice.
Rabbits is the devil :fire:yes a jolly good trip to wirehairs fine grounds to give his quail a good thrashing
i'm heading there early next month, wires and spanners in tow.
I was talking with Bob Whitehead {a spaniel man now }the other day and he mentioned they were off trialing in the south island -the south Island to those guys is the shizzzzz
In fact when Bendigo were releasing pheasants a strong NI contingent did come down. The verdict: impossible to run a game trials too many rabbits. Yes there were plenty of quail and pheasants in the area, but I can still see one of the countries top Irish Setters disappearing over a ridge hard on the heels of yet another rabbit.
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Plenty of birds, but a lot more bunnies,
I think the P&S Club flagged the area for now as it was shot to shit with little game in it nowadays .I think it was once stocked by the clubs but given the public could decimate the population quickly it was decided to cease P&S trials there currently.
Even if there are bunnies one can still run a trial effectively providing the rabbit proofing has been done -my dog is good with rabbits but even so still like the little bastards
Not to mention the inter-club politics and certain members of both clubs bombing it up
Whats with rabbits for pete's sake....Rathmoy for one is crawling with them and possums...how many dogs have been eliminated through treeing/barking etc a possum at Rathmoy and Titoki for that matter...and anyway, creatures other than gamebirds are a test to both handler and dog...so why not enjoy the challenge the possible hiccup or two...
No one has given me even a half ply reason not to trial on rabbits.
It probably dates back to rabbits being vermin in England, while pheasants etc are game.
Also it is a lot easier to teach a dog not to chase flying game, rather than running game. There is something about a rabbit or hare running in front of a dog that just makes them want to chase.
tisk tisk. One of the best days I ever had shooting was over a GSP pointing rabbits. I thought these flash dogs would be good at it and hold.....
Interesting the dog world still can't break from motherland.
the whole game list is warped, the purist pointer/setter needs big ground to run in pursuit of a swamp dwelling chinese ring neck.
some where along the line they forgot even the pheasant was a ring in.
I think the real purists run their setters on the grouse moors.
exactly............ for everything else theres spaniels.
and GWP's :thumbsup: