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Thread: Maxtoch Shooter 2x vs my hunting torches

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    Keep doing what you're doing... To be honest you are past led lenser already - theirs is very dated technology.

    The new XPro Archer etc is not our design. The original Archer had a 3 minute stepdown but was designed more as an intermittent use scope light only. Why - because a genuine all purpose hunter torch must also replicate the function of a large handheld spotlight, and that means running for hours on long night hunts with zero power loss, no heating problems, and with excellent runtimes. That's what the 2X and the XPro do very well.

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    A good informative thread.
    I have a head lamp and a torch from you and I am super happy. The headlamp with the many settings doesnít get hot and runs for ages.

    I also have a 2x, different as explained and also very good.
    At different price brackets and for different applications they all do a fine job.
    I commend, thank and encourage you for your endeavour.

    I also want to do a mighty shoutout to one of the forum tech guruís @gadgetman for: as we speak he is fixing my x2.
    A bloody top man who refuses even a tenner for his time and expertise...


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    Mudgripz and Gadget have done a crapload of development over the years and really tweaked the maxtochs up to great levels. Since Maxtoch greatly increased their prices ( thanks I'm sure to Muddy and Gadgets efforts developing them and increasing sales), there is definitely a place for lower priced torches that do a pretty similar job.
    Night into day I think it's lucky you didn't become a led lenser distributor since their tech is way outdated these days. Not to mention the ridiculous prices they charge.
    Good luck with your sales Night into day, there is a market for scope top torches for spotting and light torches for chasing away the dark
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    I too have an x2 on its way for repair, which may suggest that the end product may not be quite as good as expected. Mine has done very little work by the way.
    Also, is it just me that need to use pliers to remove Maxtoch 18650 bats from my x2 ? They are a VERY tight fit
    I have given up using the remote switches on my x2 and my archer, as the crap out real fast
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pengy View Post
    I too have an x2 on its way for repair, which may suggest that the end product may not be quite as good as expected. Mine has done very little work by the way.
    Also, is it just me that need to use pliers to remove Maxtoch 18650 bats from my x2 ? They are a VERY tight fit
    I have given up using the remote switches on my x2 and my archer, as the crap out real fast
    Given both mine a thrashing never had an issue, bouncing around in the truck chasing bunnies, being used by less than careful children and still as good as the day I bought them.
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    Bought my 2X and M24 waay back when they were $86 USD from memory?? (5-6 years ago??) Solid as a rock and have never played up at all.
    Sounds like everything that comes out of China: starts off with a hiss and a roar, then quality drops off as the Boss wants a new house and Range Rover each year, so cuts quality to up the profit

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    From a hunting perspective, IMHO, a head lamp is your best method of searching and finding your prey (way safer than waving your gun all over the place with your gun mounted light), then once found, turn on you gun mounted light for the shot. Using a head lamp keeps your hands free for the important job of controlling your gun.

    Therefore, for me, run time on the gun light is not a big issue as it is only on for short bursts. For this reason, I sold and/or gave away all of my 2 battery torches (including two Maxtorch's) and changed over to a single battery torch. Its smaller, lighter, and far easier to manage batteries because you don't have to try and match battery capacities or charge levels - just throw any single battery in and when its done, change it out. This is particularly helpful what your batteries are getting close to end of life but you are too Irish to throw them out (like me).

    For the headlamp, I have mounted a bike type light onto the top of a safety bump cap (the light weight caps with a slip over fabric peak on the front), mounted to the best balance point for comfortable wearing, which for me is close to the crown of the cap. I use two of 4x battery pack holders that allow you to change out the batteries. When one runs flat (2-3 hours run time) I change it over and if need be, put a fresh set into the dead holder ready for the next change.
    The peak on the cap is important as it shields the light from the front lens on your scope, removing reflections.
    I also have my light outputs such that the head lamp output is slightly less than the gun mounted light. That way I know that if I can see the animal in the headlamp, I will be able to see it better in the gun light and guarantee a safe and humane kill.

    In addition, I don't mount my torch to the scope or the rifle barrel. I have found that the best place to mount the light is under the fore end. Its way more ergonomic to raise the rifle to a shooting position using the body of the torch as a rest for your forehand and thumb the light on to take the shot. To achieve his I have routered a flat spot on the fore end of the two rifles I use for night shooting, with the routered section being parallel to the barrel channel and mounted a 2" section of rail to the stock to accept the torch mount.

    Just some thoughts on how I manage lighting, but each to their own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Night_Into_Day View Post
    Do you think I should drop my red and green versions and just stock filters? I'm on the fence about it since filters reduce the range by a large amount. There seems to be a lot of mixed thinking out there in regards to whether the red and green is effective.

    Then again, the green has been given a lot of praise on Trade Me for being easy on the eyes, and good range. Had a few pig hunters who favor green so maybe I'll keep it
    Avoid the filters, they are very inefficient. Keep the coloured LED option for those that like them. The LED's in the old Maxtochs were pretty low power and useless, your's look much more useful.
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    Have found the Maxtoch Archer a good hunting torch because it is only switched on for about 3-4 seconds to take the shot. Have shot deer up to 230m with one although the body was just visible. I use a hand held thermal monocular to locate the deer, get into position and hit the remote switch. Most deer will bolt within 5 seconds when they're hit with a light even more so in areas where they have been spotlighted for decades. Therefore waving a torch around the country side to locate animals is not so productive.

    I have an XPro but prefer the Archer as it's light and doesn't upset the balance of the rifle. I'm sure the Osram lights would do a good job too for what I require. I have a green light Archer on my .22LR which appears to me to reach as far as my white light one. Seems to scare rabbits more than the white light though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hotbarrels View Post
    From a hunting perspective, IMHO, a head lamp is your best method of searching and finding your prey (way safer than waving your gun all over the place with your gun mounted light), then once found, turn on you gun mounted light for the shot. Using a head lamp keeps your hands free for the important job of controlling your gun.

    Therefore, for me, run time on the gun light is not a big issue as it is only on for short bursts. For this reason, I sold and/or gave away all of my 2 battery torches (including two Maxtorch's) and changed over to a single battery torch. Its smaller, lighter, and far easier to manage batteries because you don't have to try and match battery capacities or charge levels - just throw any single battery in and when its done, change it out. This is particularly helpful what your batteries are getting close to end of life but you are too Irish to throw them out (like me).

    For the headlamp, I have mounted a bike type light onto the top of a safety bump cap (the light weight caps with a slip over fabric peak on the front), mounted to the best balance point for comfortable wearing, which for me is close to the crown of the cap. I use two of 4x battery pack holders that allow you to change out the batteries. When one runs flat (2-3 hours run time) I change it over and if need be, put a fresh set into the dead holder ready for the next change.
    The peak on the cap is important as it shields the light from the front lens on your scope, removing reflections.
    I also have my light outputs such that the head lamp output is slightly less than the gun mounted light. That way I know that if I can see the animal in the headlamp, I will be able to see it better in the gun light and guarantee a safe and humane kill.

    In addition, I don't mount my torch to the scope or the rifle barrel. I have found that the best place to mount the light is under the fore end. Its way more ergonomic to raise the rifle to a shooting position using the body of the torch as a rest for your forehand and thumb the light on to take the shot. To achieve his I have routered a flat spot on the fore end of the two rifles I use for night shooting, with the routered section being parallel to the barrel channel and mounted a 2" section of rail to the stock to accept the torch mount.

    Just some thoughts on how I manage lighting, but each to their own.
    I like the sound of how you deal with it @hotbarrels.
    Possible to post some pictures of your hat and rifle setup?

    Cheers
    Phil

 

 

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