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Agreed, and I'll probably get shot down for this but,one of the worst factory calibers I've seen for not shooting well out of the box in a variety of rifles is 7mm 08. sure most will shoot ok with...

There is alot of truth in the first part of that Greg, guys shoot every day across the country and most can barely hold 2 moa, in alot of cases almost certainly the rifle they are shooting can do...