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my bad Im thinking of the nosler ones that "were coming" and seem to have never eventuated.... those ones look just like the 180s Im using in .308 as my bush load with good results.

yip for sure the lehighs do the bizo....and the hornady factory big round nose jobbies???

4" group is crap....did you get to find out what terminal preformance was like???? havent seen or heard ANY reports of those big fatties anywhere yet.